Trappers be aware

[JakeLand]

I personally told him to stand his ground and it was ME who dealt with the Gamewarden when everything went south and yes he was in the right and lawful so YOU tell me why I should give one inch to the antis ? I won’t and I will push them back to their place on this topic ! This is the last I will say on this as I’ve been fighting for our RIGHT to trap even with all the hurdles they throw at us
I’m out good bye

[jackelope]

@Jackelope
Why was Ridgerat’s post taken down ?

I haven’t been much involved in the babysitting of this thread so I don’t know.
Maybe refer to KF’s post above.

There’s rules here. If you break them, stuff will get edited, nuked, etc. You signed up for that and acknowledged that when you agreed to the terms of membership here.  Also if you blatantly break the rules, don’t get pissed off at us when we moderate you. We’re just fixing what you agreed to stick to when you signed up for the forum.

If y’all want to have a discussion about this incident, have a discussion. Keep it within the boundaries of the rules here and it’ll stay. Keep going outside those boundaries and it’ll go away. It’s totally possible. We’re mostly all adults here.

[Cougartail]

Just because you have the right to keep and bear arms doesn't mean you should. Hide in the corner and be a good little boy not offending anyone.

What becomes acceptable is what people see.
 
Two dudes holding hands is now common place and I have to say they have more backbone than 1/2 the sportsman anymore.

When all hunting, fishing, and trapping is gone maybe people will stop voting for leftist losers like Dimslee.

I'm sure some will decide to take up reading romance novels while holding hands with their former hunting partners.

[KFhunter]

I personally told him to stand his ground and it was ME who dealt with the Gamewarden when everything went south and yes he was in the right and lawful so YOU tell me why I should give one inch to the antis ? I won’t and I will push them back to their place on this topic ! This is the last I will say on this as I’ve been fighting for our RIGHT to trap even with all the hurdles they throw at us
I’m out good bye

I'm glad you dealt with the WDFW Police, it resulted in a fine she otherwise would not have gotten.  (and possibly kept Jingles out of jail  )

I encourage you to help Jingles pursue a possible civil fine and seek punitive damages.  At least encourage him to seek out a hardball lawyer and get professional advice. 

As for moving traplines at the time Jingles was talking about beating this gal, booby trapping and other violence, that didn't sit well with me and many others here on the forum. 

Now, trapping is on the chopping block, starting with beaver

I don't belive in coincidences 

Had Jingles moved his trapline as many suggested, would beaver be elevated on the commissions chopping block 

I dunno, but it is highly suspicious

[MR5x5]

You got to be able to read the table and play carefully from the short stack. It's not always about right or wrong.

[Caseyd]

I personally told him to stand his ground and it was ME who dealt with the Gamewarden when everything went south and yes he was in the right and lawful so YOU tell me why I should give one inch to the antis ? I won’t and I will push them back to their place on this topic ! This is the last I will say on this as I’ve been fighting for our RIGHT to trap even with all the hurdles they throw at us
I’m out good bye

I'm glad you dealt with the WDFW Police, it resulted in a fine she otherwise would not have gotten.  (and possibly kept Jingles out of jail  )

I encourage you to help Jingles pursue a possible civil fine and seek punitive damages.  At least encourage him to seek out a hardball lawyer and get professional advice. 

As for moving traplines at the time Jingles was talking about beating this gal, booby trapping and other violence, that didn't sit well with me and many others here on the forum. 

Now, trapping is on the chopping block, starting with beaver

I don't belive in coincidences 

Had Jingles moved his trapline as many suggested, would beaver be elevated on the commissions chopping block 

I dunno, but it is highly suspicious

Optics, we all need to be aware of our surroundings.

Did he choose the wrong hill to die on? Maybe, maybe not. That’s not up to the community to decide.

We have a Hunter/trapper who was following the law and was harassed by someone breaking the law. Antis are United in their pursuit to shutdown hunting and trapping and we can’t even support someone doing something that wa legal. If this event is causing the commission to make changes, then the connection to the event in question and the ties to commission need to be made loud and clear. The antis might seem like they outnumber us, but it’s just because they are louder.

[Gettin Birdie]

Their end goal always has been to end hunting/trapping/etc.  We shouldn't have to feel like criminals and hide our activities if they're legal, just so we don't insult someone else, to hell with them, they sure as hell will take every inch and never give back, they are idealogues and activists and know no reason.  This just exposes their plan all along and should be good for our side.  We need to get more and bigger groups with deeper pockets involved with these things to push back on a united front.  I don't trap, but I sure will support those that do, and especially legally, and I'd like to try it someday, so it is important to fight for that right.  Funny these people have a problem with a person trapping, yet they don't mind a methhead taking a *censored* on a sidewalk in broad daylight one bit.  It's gone from each to your own, do your own thing, I'll do mine. I choose not to trap or hunt, but don't care if others do, to I will dictate how you live and what you do and since I don't, you won't.  That is unacceptable to me.     

[MR5x5]

...and it will be perfectly legal for the "authority" to ban all trapping in the area of concern and further.  Legality is merely a point in time.  Sure you can keep poking the bear, but to what end?

[jackelope]

Anyone who thinks this would end up being good for trapping should take a look back in time at the skagit elk cull archery hunt back in 2009? I think. Pretty sure that poop show did nothing but bad for hunters and hunting’s image. 

[Caseyd]

Anyone who thinks this would end up being good for trapping should take a look back in time at the skagit elk cull archery hunt back in 2009? I think. Pretty sure that poop show did nothing but bad for hunters and hunting’s image.

That event came to mind but what actually happened from it? They sure as hell didn’t ban elk hunting.

If you think banning hunting is going to stop people from harvesting animals then you’re thinking like them. Who’s going to stop anyone. Give it a little time and everyone would be back to hunting.

[Gettin Birdie]

...and it will be perfectly legal for the "authority" to ban all trapping in the area of concern and further.  Legality is merely a point in time.  Sure you can keep poking the bear, but to what end?

We're in the right, not them.  It may be "legal" by the authority, but that doesn't mean it would be right, or the optics would be so, there are many avenues against such behavior and laws.  They take every inch from you and you've nothing to show for it, what gives?  Look at the state of hunting in WA, gun laws? when does it end?  You poke as if you have a right to it and you damn well do.  Taking an inch at a time or foot at once eventually equals out to the same.  And it's not poking the bear to do what you are legally entitled to do, poking would be going against the grain and then some. 

[Gettin Birdie]

Anyone who thinks this would end up being good for trapping should take a look back in time at the skagit elk cull archery hunt back in 2009? I think. Pretty sure that poop show did nothing but bad for hunters and hunting’s image.

Nothing is ever going to look good for trapping, ever.  It's about keeping our rights and not giving an inch more.  If you have anymore details or direct links, I'd happily read them, Thanks. 

[Humptulips]

I personally told him to stand his ground and it was ME who dealt with the Gamewarden when everything went south and yes he was in the right and lawful so YOU tell me why I should give one inch to the antis ? I won’t and I will push them back to their place on this topic ! This is the last I will say on this as I’ve been fighting for our RIGHT to trap even with all the hurdles they throw at us
I’m out good bye

I'm glad you dealt with the WDFW Police, it resulted in a fine she otherwise would not have gotten.  (and possibly kept Jingles out of jail  )

I encourage you to help Jingles pursue a possible civil fine and seek punitive damages.  At least encourage him to seek out a hardball lawyer and get professional advice. 

As for moving traplines at the time Jingles was talking about beating this gal, booby trapping and other violence, that didn't sit well with me and many others here on the forum. 

Now, trapping is on the chopping block, starting with beaver

I don't belive in coincidences 

Had Jingles moved his trapline as many suggested, would beaver be elevated on the commissions chopping block 

I dunno, but it is highly suspicious

I doubt that this has had anything to do with the current beaver issue. The beaver issue first came to the F&W Commission in the form of testimony at the last Furbearer season setting presentation three years ago. It has gained momentum with the appointment of Melanie Rowland. I doubt this case is on anyone's radar.

[jasnt]

Strange how these people are so concerned with a rodent.  The largest rodent in North America and in no way endangered or threatened.  Wa doesn’t even have enough trappers to make a dent in the beaver population.   

[KFhunter]

The rodent was made a big deal of in YNP

"Bison Elk erode stream beds and eat the brush on the banks of the Yellowstone river and no beaver so no fish and global warming"

They've identified beaver as a keystone species