collapse

Advertisement


Author Topic: slowing the troll with troll bags. rigging to make it easy?  (Read 3557 times)

Offline syoungs

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+8)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2012
  • Posts: 2266
  • Location: tri cities, WA
slowing the troll with troll bags. rigging to make it easy?
« on: August 23, 2022, 03:44:21 PM »
Looking to start fishing the columbia in tri cities for salmon, and my down current speed trolling on the main is to fast. was thinking about getting a couple smaller troll bags/sea anchors, and attaching them to the bow cleats, ending midship on both sides.
want to avoid having them back towards the engine, and where the fish fighting will happen. 2 seems like the ticket to not fighting a boat that wont handle worth a darn.

is there a problem doing this? how big of bags should I get for a 24' trophy with a i/o 260hp mercruiser? If I remember right, ill need to kill about 1.5mph, possibly more.

no kicker motor to run right now, havent been able to find the parts needed to fix my current one, and a new one is out of the question this month!

Offline Ridgeratt

  • Washington For Wildlife
  • Trade Count: (+11)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Sep 2008
  • Posts: 5894
  • IBEW 73 (Retired) Burden on the working class.
Re: slowing the troll with troll bags. rigging to make it easy?
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2022, 04:02:15 PM »
Have you given any thought to a 5 gallon bucket or 2. Punch a few holes in it so you can get it back on board. That is what we used before we heard of drift socks.
Tie them off in the middle of the boat on a cleat.
Even 3 gallon buckets will work.
« Last Edit: August 23, 2022, 04:55:04 PM by Ridgeratt »

Offline Skillet

  • Business Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+43)
  • Old Salt
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jun 2009
  • Posts: 5823
  • Location: Sitka, AK
Re: slowing the troll with troll bags. rigging to make it easy?
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2022, 04:22:29 PM »
I'm using drag bags at this very minute to fish for chums in Sitka Sound.

Buckets will work too, and are acheap solution - but they will be constantly banging on your hull. Bags have a trip line attachment on the end that makes it really easy to pick them up.

The farther forward you can arrange them while they stay in the water, the better. If the buckets/bags end up 1/2 way down the waterline that works great.  Farther forward is better, but probably not practical on your boat.  The farther back they are, the harder steering gets, as the boat's stern pivots around the center of resistance when turning.
KABOOM Count - 1

"The ocean is calling, and I must go."

"Does anyone know where the love of God goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?"
     - Gordon Lightfoot

Offline Mfowl

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+6)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2012
  • Posts: 4397
  • Location: westside
Re: slowing the troll with troll bags. rigging to make it easy?
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2022, 04:58:05 PM »
Have you given any thought to a 5 gallon bucket or 2. Punch a few holes in it so you can get it back on board. That is what we used before we heard of drift socks.
Tie them off in the middle of the boat on a cleat.

This is a time proven method!

Not sure what size you need but larger would be my guess over smaller for your size boat. Rigging them forward on the cleats is the right idea. Also they can be trailed out behind the boat on anchor to keep from swaying in the wind. They can also be used to slow a drift in the wind. Just remember to pull them before you run! ...don't ask  :chuckle:
Fish hard, hunt harder!

Offline Blacklab

  • Site Sponsor
  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 8193
Re: slowing the troll with troll bags. rigging to make it easy?
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2022, 05:36:00 PM »
Drag bags/sea anchors worked for me. I think they were 18” on a 20’ Stryker middle cleat :twocents: GL 😉🥃🇺🇸
Hey! I'm not a complete idiot I have parts missing. Though sometimes I wonder.

If you want to make God laugh tell him your plans.

Offline syoungs

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+8)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2012
  • Posts: 2266
  • Location: tri cities, WA
Re: slowing the troll with troll bags. rigging to make it easy?
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2022, 05:50:42 PM »
Thanks for the ideas and pics!
I think this weekend I'll try it with buckets to see how much of a pain it is, etc, and then buy a pair of them next week if it works like I want it to.

Offline Stein

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+11)
  • Explorer
  • ******
  • Join Date: Sep 2013
  • Posts: 12984
  • Location: Arlington
Re: slowing the troll with troll bags. rigging to make it easy?
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2022, 06:16:51 PM »
If you go buckets, bring a spare or two, the handles aren't very sturdy sometimes.

Offline Ridgeratt

  • Washington For Wildlife
  • Trade Count: (+11)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Sep 2008
  • Posts: 5894
  • IBEW 73 (Retired) Burden on the working class.
Re: slowing the troll with troll bags. rigging to make it easy?
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2022, 06:27:06 PM »
If you go buckets, bring a spare or two, the handles aren't very sturdy sometimes.

For goodness sake think outside the box.
Just drill some better holes and use some rope.
A triangle set of holes.


 :bash:
« Last Edit: August 23, 2022, 06:36:04 PM by Ridgeratt »

Offline PointBlank

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hunter
  • ***
  • Join Date: Dec 2020
  • Posts: 105
  • Location: SW Washington
Re: slowing the troll with troll bags. rigging to make it easy?
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2022, 06:59:29 PM »
Use one on each side so you don’t troll in circles :chuckle:
In this family we aim for the game, we wear camo, we respect our rifles, we pray before meals, we lock and load and we never miss

Offline Stein

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+11)
  • Explorer
  • ******
  • Join Date: Sep 2013
  • Posts: 12984
  • Location: Arlington
Re: slowing the troll with troll bags. rigging to make it easy?
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2022, 07:36:57 PM »
If you go buckets, bring a spare or two, the handles aren't very sturdy sometimes.

For goodness sake think outside the box.
Just drill some better holes and use some rope.
A triangle set of holes.


 :bash:

I thought inside the box and bought a kicker.  Just trying to help a guy out, the guys I have seen pulling buckets are 99.4% using the handle to pull them and they break and then they are done effectively fishing for the day.

Offline Ridgeratt

  • Washington For Wildlife
  • Trade Count: (+11)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Sep 2008
  • Posts: 5894
  • IBEW 73 (Retired) Burden on the working class.
Re: slowing the troll with troll bags. rigging to make it easy?
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2022, 07:45:06 PM »
And to think I was under the impression common sense wasn't a superpower.   :chuckle:

Offline Jake Dogfish

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: May 2017
  • Posts: 3827
  • Location: Des Moines
Re: slowing the troll with troll bags. rigging to make it easy?
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2022, 09:45:45 PM »
If you go buckets, bring a spare or two, the handles aren't very sturdy sometimes.

For goodness sake think outside the box.
Just drill some better holes and use some rope.
A triangle set of holes.


 :bash:

I thought inside the box and bought a kicker.  Just trying to help a guy out, the guys I have seen pulling buckets are 99.4% using the handle to pull them and they break and then they are done effectively fishing for the day.
:yeah:
Wasting gas to get to the right speed obviously isn’t ideal.  I would prefer to use the proper equipment if I could afford it.
Environmentalist Fundamentalist

Offline CP

  • Trade Count: (+6)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Mar 2008
  • Posts: 7042
  • Location: Mukilteo
Re: slowing the troll with troll bags. rigging to make it easy?
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2022, 06:38:10 AM »
I’m not very familiar with trolling in rivers, but can’t you control speed by just bumping in and out of gear? 

Offline h2ofowlr

  • CHOKED UP TIGHT
  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Dec 2008
  • Posts: 9120
  • Location: In the "Blind"! Go Cougs!
Re: slowing the troll with troll bags. rigging to make it easy?
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2022, 07:55:20 AM »
I use the troll bags / sea anchors when I troll for sockeye to maintain my speed.  I have two medium sized ones and a XL one I use off the bow of my boat.  I used to use them all the time on the Columbia when I would sit in a hawg line to keep my boat straight.
Cut em!
It's not the shells!  It's the shooter!

Offline metlhead

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Feb 2014
  • Posts: 1691
  • Location: sw wa
Re: slowing the troll with troll bags. rigging to make it easy?
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2022, 04:27:31 PM »
Buckets are difficult to use and continually shifting gears is bad news in time. Anybody use a troll plate?

 


* Advertisement

* Recent Topics

WA Moose scouting by greenhead_killer
[Today at 05:24:39 AM]


If this is your trap by SWHUNTER
[Yesterday at 10:50:36 PM]


JBLM Archery by Carwash
[Yesterday at 10:20:12 PM]


William o Douglas lakes by buggy
[Yesterday at 10:12:58 PM]


JBLM by Carwash
[Yesterday at 10:08:39 PM]


Looking for Solid 22 LR input by run870
[Yesterday at 09:15:50 PM]


Teanaway bull elk by Stein
[Yesterday at 09:14:42 PM]


49 Degrees North Early Bull Moose by Vandal44
[Yesterday at 07:10:03 PM]


3 days for Kings by Parasite
[Yesterday at 07:02:37 PM]


I'm Going To Need Karl To Come up With That 290 Muley Sunscreen Bug Spray Combo by dvolmer
[Yesterday at 06:30:50 PM]


Raffle ticket sales 2025 by greenhead_killer
[Yesterday at 06:18:45 PM]


Yakima bow shop by maxwell
[Yesterday at 05:41:04 PM]


Cell cam recommendation for security? by Stein
[Yesterday at 05:01:50 PM]


2025 Montana alternate list by Sakko300wsm
[Yesterday at 03:55:08 PM]


The end? Bird bands. by hdshot
[Yesterday at 03:44:43 PM]


North Sea Fishing trip by BLH69
[Yesterday at 02:05:14 PM]


2025 Crab! by BLH69
[Yesterday at 02:02:40 PM]


Early Huckleberry Bull Moose tag drawn! by MMCCAULEY
[Yesterday at 09:25:10 AM]


Mt. St. Helens Goat by CNELK
[Yesterday at 07:31:32 AM]

SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal