Idaho Nonresident whitetail tags-1500

[andrew_in_idaho]

do you guys think these wt tags will sell out with a few minutes given there are only 700 and something?

No, the demand for whitetail deer is not nearly as extreme as mule deer and elk. I would guess there will be tags available still at 5 pm MT. That has been my experience in the august return tag sales anyway. Heck you could still buy a 2nd elk tag in November this past year.


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[vandeman17]

anyone else in the waiting room or am I the only one dumb/naive enough to be in here?

[Buckhunter24]

We got lucky dec 1 and got the tags we wanted but am curious to hear how quick these ones go. What number are you?

[2MANY]

V17
No clue, but good luck.
I hope you get a tag.

[Bigtine96]

I'm not playing this game anymore, when I could hunt and purchase a tag when the weather opportunity was there this was my favorite hunt. But I am no longer going to wait in line a year before the season and hope I get good weather and hope I can get a tag.

[vandeman17]

I guess I read it all wrong and thought I could still buy a tag but it looks like I couldn't but my old man could since he doesn't have a general tag yet which I do. I ended up not buying anything. Oh well

[fishngamereaper]

I guess I read it all wrong and thought I could still buy a tag but it looks like I couldn't but my old man could since he doesn't have a general tag yet which I do. I ended up not buying anything. Oh well

So you where trying to buy it as a second tag?

Everyone I know that logged in this morning got tags...but they missed the general tag sale.

[vandeman17]

I guess I read it all wrong and thought I could still buy a tag but it looks like I couldn't but my old man could since he doesn't have a general tag yet which I do. I ended up not buying anything. Oh well

So you where trying to buy it as a second tag?

Everyone I know that logged in this morning got tags...but they missed the general tag sale.

Yes I thought I read/heard you could purchase as a second tag. I was incorrect

[duckman18]

I forgot didn’t sign in till 907 didn’t get one of the four units I wanted. You can sign in right now and get some of the units that are less popular.

[luvmystang67]

The fun part about this that has kind of been uncovered is that the sum of the units allocations doesn't reach the total allocation, at least for elk.

The legal limit for NR tags is over the sum of the units.  Every year on August 1st there's this lovely little special pot of NR elk tags that were never actually offered to NR, but are available exclusively as 2nd elk tags for residents.  Last several years I've bought a second elk tag at the NR price (old price, $416) in mid Sept.

Residents were complaining, so I credit IDFG with listening, but the truth is 10 years ago they sold more NR tags AND the resident population was smaller.  Now the resident population is larger and they're actually selling fewer NR tags because they're not hitting their NR max numbers due to the zone-based 10-15% approach they've taken. 

I do expect this secret pot of NR tags to erode when they reevaluate their deer and elk zones to find that more residents means more resident hunters and that 10-15% figure will increase NR tags per zone.  But until then, I'll rest easy knowing I have a 2nd permit always available to me until mid season. 

Sidenote: I don't really understand how idaho whitetail tags, or general tags in whitetail prominent areas, are still so popular.  Its the only game animal found in nearly every state in the country and while Idaho has some big ones, they're IMO not any better than other states.  Maybe I'm the one missing the point.

[vandeman17]

The fun part about this that has kind of been uncovered is that the sum of the units allocations doesn't reach the total allocation, at least for elk.

The legal limit for NR tags is over the sum of the units.  Every year on August 1st there's this lovely little special pot of NR elk tags that were never actually offered to NR, but are available exclusively as 2nd elk tags for residents.  Last several years I've bought a second elk tag at the NR price (old price, $416) in mid Sept.

Residents were complaining, so I credit IDFG with listening, but the truth is 10 years ago they sold more NR tags AND the resident population was smaller.  Now the resident population is larger and they're actually selling fewer NR tags because they're not hitting their NR max numbers due to the zone-based 10-15% approach they've taken. 

I do expect this secret pot of NR tags to erode when they reevaluate their deer and elk zones to find that more residents means more resident hunters and that 10-15% figure will increase NR tags per zone.  But until then, I'll rest easy knowing I have a 2nd permit always available to me until mid season. 

Sidenote: I don't really understand how idaho whitetail tags, or general tags in whitetail prominent areas, are still so popular.  Its the only game animal found in nearly every state in the country and while Idaho has some big ones, they're IMO not any better than other states.  Maybe I'm the one missing the point.

In WA, you can't hunt whitetails, for the most part, during their rut with a rifle without a special permit. Other states have tags to hunt them with a rifle during the rut on general season. 

[dilleytech]

I was in waiting for 10 minutes before it started. Idk how the numbering works but I was number 1009 in line once the tag sale began. I was trying for a 8A tag but there was only 6 available. Of course sold out by my turn as I excepted. It’s like a lottery system.

[luvmystang67]

The fun part about this that has kind of been uncovered is that the sum of the units allocations doesn't reach the total allocation, at least for elk.

The legal limit for NR tags is over the sum of the units.  Every year on August 1st there's this lovely little special pot of NR elk tags that were never actually offered to NR, but are available exclusively as 2nd elk tags for residents.  Last several years I've bought a second elk tag at the NR price (old price, $416) in mid Sept.

Residents were complaining, so I credit IDFG with listening, but the truth is 10 years ago they sold more NR tags AND the resident population was smaller.  Now the resident population is larger and they're actually selling fewer NR tags because they're not hitting their NR max numbers due to the zone-based 10-15% approach they've taken. 

I do expect this secret pot of NR tags to erode when they reevaluate their deer and elk zones to find that more residents means more resident hunters and that 10-15% figure will increase NR tags per zone.  But until then, I'll rest easy knowing I have a 2nd permit always available to me until mid season. 

Sidenote: I don't really understand how idaho whitetail tags, or general tags in whitetail prominent areas, are still so popular.  Its the only game animal found in nearly every state in the country and while Idaho has some big ones, they're IMO not any better than other states.  Maybe I'm the one missing the point.

In WA, you can't hunt whitetails, for the most part, during their rut with a rifle without a special permit. Other states have tags to hunt them with a rifle during the rut on general season. 

Fair point!

[fishngamereaper]

Still lots of good tags left.. surprising considering the free for all Dec 1...

[idaho guy]

The fun part about this that has kind of been uncovered is that the sum of the units allocations doesn't reach the total allocation, at least for elk.

The legal limit for NR tags is over the sum of the units.  Every year on August 1st there's this lovely little special pot of NR elk tags that were never actually offered to NR, but are available exclusively as 2nd elk tags for residents.  Last several years I've bought a second elk tag at the NR price (old price, $416) in mid Sept.

Residents were complaining, so I credit IDFG with listening, but the truth is 10 years ago they sold more NR tags AND the resident population was smaller.  Now the resident population is larger and they're actually selling fewer NR tags because they're not hitting their NR max numbers due to the zone-based 10-15% approach they've taken. 

I do expect this secret pot of NR tags to erode when they reevaluate their deer and elk zones to find that more residents means more resident hunters and that 10-15% figure will increase NR tags per zone.  But until then, I'll rest easy knowing I have a 2nd permit always available to me until mid season. 

Sidenote: I don't really understand how idaho whitetail tags, or general tags in whitetail prominent areas, are still so popular.  Its the only game animal found in nearly every state in the country and while Idaho has some big ones, they're IMO not any better than other states.  Maybe I'm the one missing the point.

In WA, you can't hunt whitetails, for the most part, during their rut with a rifle without a special permit. Other states have tags to hunt them with a rifle during the rut on general season. 

Fair point!

   


It’s is a fair point and I love hunting whitetail in the rut in Idaho. The downside is it has led to a lot less older age class bucks. In my opinion after they extended rifle season to include both October and November the numbers of large bucks declined quite a bit. I love hunting whitetail in the panhandle but the opportunity to rifle hunt for 2 months and during the entire rut has resulted in less mature bucks. I agree with stang on this one. I am surprised by the excitement to grab idaho whitetail tags with the extra cost and travel etc. I actually see a lot more large whitetail in other states. It’s a fun hunt in Idaho and you can still get nice bucks and occasionally a great one but it’s definitely not a great whitetail state. The best whitetail archery hunter I know ,that lives in Idaho ,loves to hunt Washington 😂 he said it’s because Washington DOES NOT
have a rifle rut hunt so he finds more mature bucks during archery.