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Permit in Montana that You Will Never Draw .004% chance
« on: April 01, 2023, 09:05:43 PM »
I was researching something else and stumbled onto this interesting story:

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If you have zero points you have a .004% chance of drawing a tag. If you have max points (16) you have a 2% chance at drawing. Yikes! 16 years worth of buying points all for 1.5% better odds than someone with zero points.

full story: https://blog.eastmans.com/the-most-coveted-deer-permit-in-montana-that-you-will-never-draw/

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Re: Permit in Montana that You Will Never Draw .004% chance
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2023, 10:02:56 PM »
The premiums..where points go to die

I think one could argue in states that don't have a preference for longterm applicants to go short term on the draw strategy

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Re: Permit in Montana that You Will Never Draw .004% chance
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2023, 11:17:53 PM »
 There are 180 bucks in general hunt areas! :twocents:
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Re: Permit in Montana that You Will Never Draw .004% chance
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2023, 11:23:20 PM »
There are 180 bucks in general hunt areas! :twocents:

Where?

Feel fee to PM me.   :chuckle:
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Re: Permit in Montana that You Will Never Draw .004% chance
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2023, 11:26:03 PM »
There are 180 bucks in general hunt areas! :twocents:

Where?

Feel fee to PM me.   :chuckle:

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Re: Permit in Montana that You Will Never Draw .004% chance
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2023, 11:35:09 PM »
There are 180 bucks in general hunt areas! :twocents:

That's true, but not as many of them as in draw areas.
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Re: Permit in Montana that You Will Never Draw .004% chance
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2023, 11:38:37 PM »
There are 180 bucks in general hunt areas! :twocents:

That's true, but not as many of them as in draw areas.

 Agreed, but if your odds are .004% to draw the permit, does it really matter? :chuckle:
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Re: Permit in Montana that You Will Never Draw .004% chance
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2023, 07:09:42 AM »
There are 180 bucks in general hunt areas! :twocents:

That's true, but not as many of them as in draw areas.

 Agreed, but if your odds are .004% to draw the permit, does it really matter? :chuckle:

Certainly not regarding that unit and many others where the trophy potential isn't really all that much greater.
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Re: Permit in Montana that You Will Never Draw .004% chance
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2023, 08:33:46 AM »
Same as a lottery. Hope that you win, just don't expect it.

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Re: Permit in Montana that You Will Never Draw .004% chance
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2023, 08:40:40 AM »
Technically its 37,500% better odds but still 1 out of 50 chance.

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Re: Permit in Montana that You Will Never Draw .004% chance
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2023, 09:16:04 AM »
If you can afford to buy 160 acres in that unit you can qualify for one of the landowner tags, small price to pay....
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Re: Permit in Montana that You Will Never Draw .004% chance
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2023, 09:24:11 AM »
There are 180 bucks in general hunt areas! :twocents:

That's true, but not as many of them as in draw areas.

 Agreed, but if your odds are .004% to draw the permit, does it really matter? :chuckle:

It does if you are putting in Washington... LOL  :chuckle:

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Re: Permit in Montana that You Will Never Draw .004% chance
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2023, 05:14:06 PM »
There are 180 bucks in general hunt areas! :twocents:

That's true, but not as many of them as in draw areas.

 Agreed, but if your odds are .004% to draw the permit, does it really matter? :chuckle:

It does if you are putting in Washington... LOL  :chuckle:

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Re: Permit in Montana that You Will Never Draw .004% chance
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2023, 08:35:48 PM »
I'm too old and late to the party get in the points game for a lot of hunts.  And laws are changing each year where non-residents allocations are getting worse.  It's probably best to enjoy those general season hunts while I can, and save up for outfitted hunt with the money I'd put towards building points.

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Re: Permit in Montana that You Will Never Draw .004% chance
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2023, 09:18:20 PM »
I must admit I have applied for that tag on several occasions

 


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