pistols in bow season

[BK Dave]

 IMHO Allowing anybody to carry a gun during archery season for "ANY" reason is a bad idea!!
If you want to shoot a grouse, use an old arrow. It's fun and wont cost you a thing if you "hit"your target.

By the way, I have nothing against "Gun hunting"at all, I would like to think that even the Gun hunters would agree with me, on carrying a firearm during bow season isn't fare to them as well.??

First off let me say I have been an archery hunter (for deer and elk) for over 20 year.  That being said I don't know why some archery and muzzle loader hunters think they own the woods during their season.  You have target shooters, small game hunters, varmint hunters, bear hunters and coug...(oh wait they already got that taken away from everyone) that are allowed to hunt with firearms during archery and muzzleloader season.  Probably some upland and waterfowl season too.  Why would you think it would be alright to force people to leave their guns at home just because YOU bought an archery deer tag.  F'n people think the world revolves around them.  The only thing an archery deer tag should limit you on is the weapon you can shoot a deer with.

I can see how I worded that wrong! sorry and let me rephrase my self.
I didn't mean to come across as some one who owns the woods. I don't have a problem with "small game hunters" or what ever else you chose to do, during this season ,however my point was "if you are holding a bow in your hand" and you have a Archery tag in your pocket, YOU ARE ARCERY HUNTING!!!!! I don't buy in to this crap about :oh I'm carrying this 6" 44mag (scoped) for "self defence" give me a break!!
 Now if you are walking thru the woods with your favorite bird dog and a 12gage, you are "bird hunting" or if you are "rifle" hunting Bear or Cat (with out a bow) your not archery hunting!
The Regs Clearly state that :Archery Regulations
1. Rules pertaining to all archery:
a. It is unlawful for any person to carry or
have in his possession any firearm while in
the field archery hunting, during an archery
season specified for that area, except for
modern handguns carried for personal
protection if that person possesses a
concealed pistol license as defined by
RCW 9.41.070. Modern handguns cannot
be used to hunt big game or dispatch
wounded big game during an archery, big
game hunting season.

So where in that do you see that it's OK to shoot grouse with a 22?? or discharge a firearm of anykind while you are in an "established" archery camp???

[gasman]

I believe that is why "clarifacation" is needed.

The moment i chose to hunt grouse with my pistol i am no longer archery hunting for big game, i am a grouse hunter.

[BK Dave]

I believe that is why "clarifacation" is needed.

The moment i chose to hunt grouse with my pistol i am no longer archery hunting for big game, i am a grouse hunter.

This should make it Clear!!!

:Modern handguns cannot
be used to hunt big game or dispatch
wounded big game during an archery, big
game hunting season.

[Hunterman]

If your going to use your sidearm to hunt grouse,,then leave your bow in you rig.  Are you big game hunting or grouse hunting?  Plain and simple.

Myself,,I am not going to shoot a grouse with a .45, but I will shoot a meth maggot if they are threatening me!!!

Hunterman(Tony)

[Alpinegus]

My  

Some of us have packstock; and when it is dark at night, it will be nice to have the handgun for protection when your packstock is tethered. I like the new rule/law for this reason.

Regarding shooting at other animals... I look forward for archery season to start all year. I get one week off. Why would I or anyone in the same boat take a chance on chasing away your buck or elk, by shooting at a goose or what have you with a hand gun.
If this is your intention...your not focused on big game archery hunting.  

[gasman]

I believe that is why "clarifacation" is needed.

The moment i chose to hunt grouse with my pistol i am no longer archery hunting for big game, i am a grouse hunter.

This should make it Clear!!!

:Modern handguns cannot
be used to hunt big game or dispatch
wounded big game during an archery, big
game hunting season.

No, you have cleared nothing up.

No where in this thread do i recall any one asking about shooting or dispatching of a big game durring deer or elk season.......


The key word is "LEGALY".......
 
What part of "LEGALY" is miss understood. Not your "OPION".

[BK Dave]

I just sent off a e-mail to the WDFW. we will see what there responce is.
 
Here is what i asked.
"If i am bow hunting deer or elk, can i legally shoot another game animal with my pistol?"
"Example would be legal game animal like, grouse, coyote, bear, etc. "

  
MAYBE THIS WILL JOG YOUR MEMORY "YOU WROTE IT!!"

[gasman]

This should make it Clear!!!

:Modern handguns cannot
be used to hunt big game or dispatch
wounded big game during an archery, big
game hunting season.

[/quote]

How does this statement clarify this question?

"If i am bow hunting deer or elk, can i legally shoot another game animal with my pistol?"
"Example would be legal game animal like, grouse, coyote, bear, etc. "



The statement you posted talks abut killing or dispatching big game like deer or elk, not other game animals like grouse or yotes.

[blindpig]

Killbilly, No, I'm not above the law but if it makes you feel better to turn me in then go ahead, it will get you nowhere.  They have a hard enough time catching actual crimminals that steal your animals.  This should be funny, I will look forward to talking to my local law enforcment.  Have a great day tomorrow Killbilly.  I'm done playing your games.  "moron"

[BK Dave]

Alrighty then, I joined this site to make friends and share stories and opinions, not to make enemies!!
I think I have said what I have to say, and others have to, I think we should just leave it at that?

I'll admit that I may have been a little out of line with some of my comments eg:nimrods:
I apologise

Gasman, I'm sure your a cool dude and your views should be respected and there is to much grey area for any of this to make "legal" sense!!

Have a good day
BK

[heavy hauler]

the state "allowing " us to carry during bow season is crazy.were we supposed to give up constitutional rights because of the weapon we choose to hunt with? laws get changed when someone challenges them. just because someone passed a law in olympia years ago doesnt mean it would have ever stood up to a constitutional challenge. now they throw us a bone by "allowing" people with a concealed  carry permit to carry? come on

[bobcat]

I'll admit that I may have been a little out of line with some of my comments eg:nimrods:

I never understood why the term "nimrod" is sometimes used as if it's a derogatory remark. This is the definition from dictionary.com:

Nim⋅rod  /ˈnɪmrɒd/  Show Spelled Pronunciation [nim-rod]  Show IPA
–noun 1. the great-grandson of Noah: noted as a great hunter. Gen. 10:8–10.

2. (sometimes lowercase) a person expert in or devoted to hunting.

[gasman]

Gasman, I'm sure your a cool dude and your views should be respected and there is to much grey area for any of this to make "legal" sense!

BK
We all have our own opion and that is fine, but we must not let our personal opion get in the way of what is, actual, fact or legal for that matter.

That is why i e-mailed the WDFW to clarify this subject. We all have our opion on what it is, but what we all need to know is the legal stand point of something like this.

It is better to "know fact" than to guess or go by opion........for all of us..................

Pete




And by the way, we are all friends here  

[bobcat]

Hey, all you gotta say if a warden asks, is the grouse was attacking and you feared for your life, and that's why you were forced to kill it. After all that's why you pack a 22 pistol, for those situations when you need to defend yourself from grouse. 

[blindpig]

Hauler has a point, never thought of it that way.