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Re: Conservation policy comment period open Dec. 18th - Jan 12th
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2024, 02:38:44 PM »
just sent my comments - the definitions and wording in this draft are terrible for consumptive use - as is the document lays the groundwork to exclude hunting and fishing from conservation, or put them at the bottom of the priority list.

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Re: Conservation policy comment period open Dec. 18th - Jan 12th
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2024, 04:02:19 PM »
Another issue with their focus on only "native" species is that deciding what critter is native.  Are barred owls and scrub jays native?  They migrated here on their own, and with climate change (that the WDFW and liberals are always pointing to) species distribution will change in the future.  Animals and plants will migrate.  Are these native or not?  We need something that works for today and into the realistic future.

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Re: Conservation policy comment period open Dec. 18th - Jan 12th
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2024, 06:23:36 AM »
Thanks for participating in the comment period.
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Re: Conservation policy comment period open Dec. 18th - Jan 12th
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2024, 12:34:11 PM »
I did email a comment that I do not support policy change.
Did my part,but get the feeling that it will happen regardless.
Just reading the policy,I feel this has little to do with conservation.
And more to do with coyote hunting.
Just my opinion.

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Re: Conservation policy comment period open Dec. 18th - Jan 12th
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2024, 02:34:48 PM »
Commented the best I could as I’m not good with that sort of thing. I can already guess the vote count but here’s to hoping!!
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Re: Conservation policy comment period open Dec. 18th - Jan 12th
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2024, 08:46:29 AM »
Times winding down
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Re: Conservation policy comment period open Dec. 18th - Jan 12th
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2024, 10:26:29 AM »
All this policy change is about is total control over all species.
Mainly unclassified wildlife.

Terms like ,"biodiversity Crisis" that's a red flag for me.
I'm all about a full spectrum ecosystem.
When you add "crisis" to it . Means drastic changes.
Drastic changes always upset the balance of any ecosystem.

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Re: Conservation policy comment period open Dec. 18th - Jan 12th
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2024, 05:38:23 AM »
Good to see some participation in the last few days to make a comment.


Draft Washington Fish and Wildlife Commission
Conservation Policy
Available for Public Comment from December 18, 2023-January 12, 2024
Draft Version: December 15, 2023
Policy Number: C-700X
Effective Date: Month X, 2023
Signed by: Barbara Baker, Fish and Wildlife Commission Chair
Purpose: The purpose of this policy is to affirm our commitment to conserving our state’s fish
and wildlife populations and their habitats, and to sustainably manage fish and wildlife
populations to meet the needs of current and future generations.
As trustees tasked with managing fish and wildlife resources in the public trust, conservation of
fish, wildlife, and habitat is the paramount responsibility of the Washington Department of Fish
and Wildlife (WDFW). Achieving the Department’s mandate under RCW 77.04.012 is becoming
increasingly difficult with the amplified effects of climate change, growing human population
and development resulting in fragmented or lost habitat, invasive species, and increasing
disease. We recognize that humankind is in the midst of a biodiversity extinction crisis and we
must continue to act while we still have the building blocks for success. The Department’s 25-
Year Strategic Plan lays out a roadmap for implementing the Department’s mandate and
addressing these conservation challenges, therefore building on that the Commission sets the
following policy guidance.
Definitions:
Conservation – Science-informed actions to perpetuate the health, resilience, and intrinsic
value of native species and natural ecosystems.
Ecosystem – A community of organisms and their physical environment viewed as a system of
interacting and interdependent relationships.
Ecosystem-based management – A comprehensive management approach that protects and/or
restores the function, structure, and species composition of an ecosystem, recognizing that all
components are interrelated.
Sustainability – The management of fish and wildlife resources in ways and rates that maintain
and enhance the integrity and resilience of ecosystems and the benefits that such provide to
current and future generations.
Principles:
1) Conservation first — The WDFW’s top priority is the conservation of Washington’s fish,
shellfish, and wildlife for the benefit of all state residents, current and future. Successful
conservation is the foundation supporting the spectrum of values that Washington
residents hold regarding providing sustainable recreational and commercial opportunities
including, but not limited to, hunting, fishing, and wildlife appreciation.
2) Conservation of all species, habitat, and ecosystems — To preserve functioning, resilient,
and healthy ecosystems, the WDFW shall strive to conserve fish, shellfish, and wildlife,
whether rare or common, and their habitats through ecosystem-based management. Doing
so is essential to maintain species diversity.
3) Conservation partnerships — An ecosystem-based management approach requires
strong coordination, cooperation, and collaboration with local, state, federal, and tribal
governments, non- governmental organizations, private landowners, academia, businesses,
and engaged residents. Collaboration with neighboring states and Canada is also important
because fish and wildlife distributions are not constrained by political boundaries. The
Commission recognizes that Washington’s population is diverse and growing, and that
everyone relies on and has a stake in healthy fish and wildlife and intact ecosystems to
support our quality of life. Therefore, the Commission’s outreach and resultant policies need
to be inclusive of both traditional stakeholders and the broader public in order to foster the
necessary partnerships to accomplish its mission.
4) Knowledge and science — WDFW actions and decisions shall be informed by objective,
science-based knowledge. Scientific efforts to inform the WDFW must be sufficiently broad
and multi-disciplinary, combining all related scientific fields (e.g., biological, ecological,
economic, and social) as well as other sources of information such as traditional ecological
knowledge and local knowledge. Adaptive management is a critical and required step to
implement actions learned from monitoring the decisions and actions against the results.
Adaptive management thus informs necessary changes to meet the desired outcomes.
5) Risk and uncertainty — Many, if not all, management challenges faced by the WDFW
involve some degree of uncertainty and risk to fish and wildlife. Human population growth
and expansion resulting in habitat degradation, or loss, and climate change are examples
where the uncertainty and risk may be substantial. Therefore, the WDFW shall seek to
identify and account for risks to the conservation of fish, wildlife, and habitat when deciding
whether or not to pursue a proposed action. The identified risks shall form the foundation
for monitoring and adaptive management of those decisions or actions.
6) Innovative leadership and solutions — Fish and wildlife management challenges are
exacerbated by our rapidly changing world. In response, the WDFW must be more
innovative and determined in our conservation efforts. Innovation does not always lead to
success, but the WDFW must be willing to make hard decisions, and on occasion make
course corrections, in order to learn and to develop the understanding and competence
needed to fulfill the mandate.
7) Aligning mandate, strategy, staff, and budget — To achieve the mandate expressed in
RCW 77.04.012, the WDFW must develop the necessary strategies, enlist the necessary
staff, and secure the necessary resources. To that end, the WDFW must strengthen its
communications to the public, State Legislature, and Governor regarding the need for
expanded partnerships, additional authorities, and funding.
Tribal considerations: The Commission respects and appreciates the status of the tribes as
sovereign nations. Their traditional ecological knowledge and their connections to the land and
waters offer key insights into how to conserve fish, wildlife and lands in Washington. For that
reason, nothing in this policy is designed to interpret, expand, impede or minimize tribal rights,
nor does this policy replace current or future individual WDFW-tribal memoranda of
agreement, consultation plans, co-management agreements or any other agreements between
WDFW and any tribe or tribes.
*As referenced in this policy, “WDFW” means all facets of the agency, including the
Department, the Director, and the Commission.
The foregoing policy, including its guiding principles, shall be incorporated by the WDFW in
the development and approval of the budget, planning, management, and decision-making
processes.
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Re: Conservation policy comment period open Dec. 18th - Jan 12th
« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2024, 09:57:42 AM »
Good to see some participation in the last few days to make a comment.


Draft Washington Fish and Wildlife Commission
Conservation Policy
Available for Public Comment from December 18, 2023-January 12, 2024
Draft Version: December 15, 2023
Policy Number: C-700X
Effective Date: Month X, 2023
Signed by: Barbara Baker, Fish and Wildlife Commission Chair
Purpose: The purpose of this policy is to affirm our commitment to conserving our state’s fish
and wildlife populations and their habitats, and to sustainably manage fish and wildlife
populations to meet the needs of current and future generations.
As trustees tasked with managing fish and wildlife resources in the public trust, conservation of
fish, wildlife, and habitat is the paramount responsibility of the Washington Department of Fish
and Wildlife (WDFW). Achieving the Department’s mandate under RCW 77.04.012 is becoming
increasingly difficult with the amplified effects of climate change, growing human population
and development resulting in fragmented or lost habitat, invasive species, and increasing
disease. We recognize that humankind is in the midst of a biodiversity extinction crisis and we
must continue to act while we still have the building blocks for success. The Department’s 25-
Year Strategic Plan lays out a roadmap for implementing the Department’s mandate and
addressing these conservation challenges, therefore building on that the Commission sets the
following policy guidance.
Definitions:
Conservation – Science-informed actions to perpetuate the health, resilience, and intrinsic
value of native species and natural ecosystems.
Ecosystem – A community of organisms and their physical environment viewed as a system of
interacting and interdependent relationships.
Ecosystem-based management – A comprehensive management approach that protects and/or
restores the function, structure, and species composition of an ecosystem, recognizing that all
components are interrelated.
Sustainability – The management of fish and wildlife resources in ways and rates that maintain
and enhance the integrity and resilience of ecosystems and the benefits that such provide to
current and future generations.
Principles:
1) Conservation first — The WDFW’s top priority is the conservation of Washington’s fish,
shellfish, and wildlife for the benefit of all state residents, current and future. Successful
conservation is the foundation supporting the spectrum of values that Washington
residents hold regarding providing sustainable recreational and commercial opportunities
including, but not limited to, hunting, fishing, and wildlife appreciation.
2) Conservation of all species, habitat, and ecosystems — To preserve functioning, resilient,
and healthy ecosystems, the WDFW shall strive to conserve fish, shellfish, and wildlife,
whether rare or common, and their habitats through ecosystem-based management. Doing
so is essential to maintain species diversity.
3) Conservation partnerships — An ecosystem-based management approach requires
strong coordination, cooperation, and collaboration with local, state, federal, and tribal
governments, non- governmental organizations, private landowners, academia, businesses,
and engaged residents. Collaboration with neighboring states and Canada is also important
because fish and wildlife distributions are not constrained by political boundaries. The
Commission recognizes that Washington’s population is diverse and growing, and that
everyone relies on and has a stake in healthy fish and wildlife and intact ecosystems to
support our quality of life. Therefore, the Commission’s outreach and resultant policies need
to be inclusive of both traditional stakeholders and the broader public in order to foster the
necessary partnerships to accomplish its mission.
4) Knowledge and science — WDFW actions and decisions shall be informed by objective,
science-based knowledge. Scientific efforts to inform the WDFW must be sufficiently broad
and multi-disciplinary, combining all related scientific fields (e.g., biological, ecological,
economic, and social) as well as other sources of information such as traditional ecological
knowledge and local knowledge. Adaptive management is a critical and required step to
implement actions learned from monitoring the decisions and actions against the results.
Adaptive management thus informs necessary changes to meet the desired outcomes.
5) Risk and uncertainty — Many, if not all, management challenges faced by the WDFW
involve some degree of uncertainty and risk to fish and wildlife. Human population growth
and expansion resulting in habitat degradation, or loss, and climate change are examples
where the uncertainty and risk may be substantial. Therefore, the WDFW shall seek to
identify and account for risks to the conservation of fish, wildlife, and habitat when deciding
whether or not to pursue a proposed action. The identified risks shall form the foundation
for monitoring and adaptive management of those decisions or actions.
6) Innovative leadership and solutions — Fish and wildlife management challenges are
exacerbated by our rapidly changing world. In response, the WDFW must be more
innovative and determined in our conservation efforts. Innovation does not always lead to
success, but the WDFW must be willing to make hard decisions, and on occasion make
course corrections, in order to learn and to develop the understanding and competence
needed to fulfill the mandate.
7) Aligning mandate, strategy, staff, and budget — To achieve the mandate expressed in
RCW 77.04.012, the WDFW must develop the necessary strategies, enlist the necessary
staff, and secure the necessary resources. To that end, the WDFW must strengthen its
communications to the public, State Legislature, and Governor regarding the need for
expanded partnerships, additional authorities, and funding.
Tribal considerations: The Commission respects and appreciates the status of the tribes as
sovereign nations. Their traditional ecological knowledge and their connections to the land and
waters offer key insights into how to conserve fish, wildlife and lands in Washington. For that
reason, nothing in this policy is designed to interpret, expand, impede or minimize tribal rights,
nor does this policy replace current or future individual WDFW-tribal memoranda of
agreement, consultation plans, co-management agreements or any other agreements between
WDFW and any tribe or tribes.
*As referenced in this policy, “WDFW” means all facets of the agency, including the
Department, the Director, and the Commission.
The foregoing policy, including its guiding principles, shall be incorporated by the WDFW in
the development and approval of the budget, planning, management, and decision-making
processes.
Ya I was wrong.
"Biodiversity extinction crisis"

Conservation of all species, habitat, and ecosystems — To preserve functioning, resilient,
and healthy ecosystems, the WDFW shall strive to conserve fish, shellfish, and wildlife,
whether rare or common, and their habitats through ecosystem-based management. Doing
so is essential to maintain species diversity.


"Rare or common" ....- means close coyote season.
It's all about carnivore.

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Re: Conservation policy comment period open Dec. 18th - Jan 12th
« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2024, 02:37:23 PM »
When you email in your comments cc your representatives and representatives in the districts you hunt in.


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Re: Conservation policy comment period open Dec. 18th - Jan 12th
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2024, 07:51:18 PM »
A couple of charts I made to use in my email- feel free to use them.  One of the data points I talked about  is the widely accepted use of harvest numbers as an indicator of overall population. Numbers aren't lying, we have growth in predator number and shrinking ungulate numbers.  Gotta use the big crayons for some of the commissioners that wouldn't pass 3rd grade biology

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Re: Conservation policy comment period open Dec. 18th - Jan 12th
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2024, 10:36:38 PM »
Why doesn’t their email open for commenting on the link provided on the first post of this thread?


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Re: Conservation policy comment period open Dec. 18th - Jan 12th
« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2024, 12:17:11 AM »
A couple of charts I made to use in my email- feel free to use them.  One of the data points I talked about  is the widely accepted use of harvest numbers as an indicator of overall population. Numbers aren't lying, we have growth in predator number and shrinking ungulate numbers.  Gotta use the big crayons for some of the commissioners that wouldn't pass 3rd grade biology
Yup,not sure how we are at "unsustainable" bear and cougar population when harvest hasn't topped out and showed a decline.
Probably a good question for one of many WDFW biologist.

Pretty cool charts too man.
I've done charts before on harvest rates.
It takes time and dedication,good job man.

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Re: Conservation policy comment period open Dec. 18th - Jan 12th
« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2024, 05:47:34 PM »
Last day to submit comments.   Let your voice be heard!
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Re: Conservation policy comment period open Dec. 18th - Jan 12th
« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2024, 06:34:50 PM »
Sent a comment earlier today

 


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