FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WA GOAT HUNTERS - STOP SHOOTING NANNIES!!!

[LDennis24]

Laziness and no respect for the animal being hunted. We as hunter have to take  responsibility and make sure we do the best we can to maintain healthy herds. I totally agree there is no reason a nannie should have been shot and it boils down to poor preparedness mentally and physically.


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I don't know that I believe people are misidentifying nannies and Billie's. They are just shooting the first easy target because it takes so much effort to get up in the mountains where goats are at and time off work and help packing and being a OIL tag and all that in some ways encourages them to shoot the first available goat knowing they may never have another chance. Maybe there should be a substantial fine for shooting a nanny?  An additional cost to deter people from taking the easy way out on these hunts. 

[Ridgerunner]

They are just shooting the first easy target because it takes so much effort to get up in the mountains where goats are at and time off work and help packing and being a OIL tag and all that in some ways encourages them to shoot the first available goat knowing they may never have another chance

I think this has alot to do with it.  Not just mountain goats but all OIL species, alot of guys have the mentality of shooting the first legal critter in this state with deer and elk so that translates into the OIL tags as well imo. 

Plus some folks don't care about size, they just are thrilled with the opportunity.  So shooting the first legal animal makes sense to them.

[Hectocotylus]

Laziness and no respect for the animal being hunted. We as hunter have to take  responsibility and make sure we do the best we can to maintain healthy herds. I totally agree there is no reason a nannie should have been shot and it boils down to poor preparedness mentally and physically.


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I don't know that I believe people are misidentifying nannies and Billie's. They are just shooting the first easy target because it takes so much effort to get up in the mountains where goats are at and time off work and help packing and being a OIL tag and all that in some ways encourages them to shoot the first available goat knowing they may never have another chance. Maybe there should be a substantial fine for shooting a nanny?  An additional cost to deter people from taking the easy way out on these hunts. 

Mandatory Billy only or lose your other OIL points?


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[bearpaw]

Unfortunately it really isn't going to make a difference even if they shut down goat season. Until they address the problems that are causing the actual decline it will continue. They act like they don't know what's causing the decline, everyone with an oz of intelligence knows that unregulated predator numbers will depress ungulate populations.

I don't see human harvest, which is at such a low rate in this state, impacting the population one way or another. The small amount of human harvest (no matter if its billies or nannie) simply isn't a driving factor in Washington's goat population.

Vote in a republican governor who will put people on the commission who are actually concerned about fixing the predator problem and you can make a difference, that's the only way I see for any of us to make a difference!

This isn't rocket science! 

[boneaddict]

  spot on!

[danger]

I sure do miss the Peninsula goat hunts. Always enjoyed seeing them while climbing. Hard pill to swallow knowing they essentially exterminated more than 500 of 'em. 

[CasterlyRock]

why is it legal?

[Britt-dog]

why is it legal?

Because half of the goat tag holders would be losing their Nanny and getting a ticket. That or the mountain would be littered with dead Nannies.

[CasterlyRock]

why is it legal?

Because half of the goat tag holders would be losing their Nanny and getting a ticket. That or the mountain would be littered with dead Nannies.

Are you saying WDFW made it legal because too many people were killing females? That sounds plausible.

[Alan K]

I'd imagine it's moreso because they realize how difficult it is to tell them apart if someone hasn't spent much time watching/learning goats.  They probably assume there would be a bunch of folks accidentally shooting a nanny (not realizing it until they got up to it) then walking off and hunting for a billy leaving the nanny lay.

It is tough. When I drew my goat tag (out of state), I was fortunate enough to have a situation where I had plenty of time to watch him and was able to see the nut sack to confirm he was a billy. Was pretty confident, but had the time and took advantage of it to be 100% certain.

There are dozens if not hundreds of 2 point bucks left lay every year by people who thought they saw a third point. Usually a few found and posted on here every year.

[Skyvalhunter]

I believe a Billy will have a beard and nanny a goate. Also males stretch to pee and females will squat

[time2hunt]

It’s truly not rocket science. Here’s is a world class nannie and you still can tell it’s a nannie.
It’s called putting boots on the ground and pre scouting and learning the animal you’re harvesting.


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[Huckleberry]

Give that girl a November jacket and she wouldn’t look so shabby on the wall. Much better than a 5 year old billy.

[time2hunt]

I was hoping to find her in October just to get more pics and video. 


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[Skinnyguts]

I wonder if black bears don’t kill more kids than people give them credit for. Bear numbers sure don’t seem to be hurting.