Author Topic: Muzzle loader Question??? (Read 7596 times)

jrebel · « **on:** June 18, 2009, 11:31:22 PM »

I have archery hunted for years and am going to muzzle load deer this year. What is a good muzzle loader for a first timer? I really don't want to spend a ton of money, but also don't want to buy a piece of junk. What muzzle loader is going to give me the most bang for my buck?? No pun intended.

Dirty Mike · « **Reply #1 on:** June 18, 2009, 11:35:22 PM »

knight bighorn hands down

M_ray · « **Reply #2 on:** June 18, 2009, 11:47:11 PM »

Quote from: MasonCtyHitman on June 18, 2009, 11:35:22 PM

knight bighorn hands down

I don't know about hands down ... I've shot it and the Wolverine but I have also shot a couple of TC's and I own two TC's. To answer the question asked not what muzzleloader YOU like I would have to say stick with something that is name brand and has recognition. That being said the most popular out there for a beginner is either TC or Knight.

whacker1 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 19, 2009, 06:21:28 AM »

There is another thread on hear about the Knight's being discounted on Gunbroker, because everyone is unloading them since they filed bankruptcy last month.

I have a discontinued remington and I ordered a bunch of extra parts, so that when the parts are discontinued, I will still have a bunch of extra parts should I need them. breech plugs, nipples, etc.

Gobble · « **Reply #4 on:** June 19, 2009, 06:30:35 AM »

Sorry, I'm old school guy. I like the look and feel of a classic ML.

CP · « **Reply #5 on:** June 19, 2009, 07:27:09 AM »

The Bighorn is a very good rifle, very accurate, light easy to shoot. But it is a real pain to clean. Removing the breech plug after more than a few shots requires a vise, the special breech tool, a hammer and good stout piece of steel to turn the breech tool with. Once it’s out you will need to work the bolt, breech plug, nipple, and all the threads with a tooth brush, soap and water; lots of nooks and crannies to clean before reassembling.

whacker1 · « **Reply #6 on:** June 19, 2009, 01:22:56 PM »

CP - I had the same problem with my remington and getting the breech plug, but I started putting some anti-sieze breech plug stuff that TC made, and it improved the ability to turn the breech plug without a vise.

rasbo · « **Reply #7 on:** June 19, 2009, 01:25:07 PM »

Quote from: whacker1 on June 19, 2009, 01:22:56 PM

CP - I had the same problem with my remington and getting the breech plug, but I started putting some anti-sieze breech plug stuff that TC made, and it improved the ability to turn the breech plug without a vise.

x2 here works good,dont be bashful with it either..tc blackdiamond works great for me 50 cal

actionshooter · « **Reply #8 on:** June 19, 2009, 01:29:55 PM »

any muzz is tough to take the breech plug out if you don't use the anti-sieze grease. I use a knight predator and don't have problems (anymore

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For a recomendation, what do you want? A modern or traditional?

lewy · « **Reply #9 on:** June 19, 2009, 01:33:03 PM »

Make sure you go with stainless...cleans and holds up the best

lostcat · « **Reply #10 on:** June 19, 2009, 01:59:06 PM »

I love my Winchester X-150, but not sure if you can find one anymore.

CP · « **Reply #11 on:** June 19, 2009, 02:14:59 PM »

Quote from: whacker1 on June 19, 2009, 01:22:56 PM

CP - I had the same problem with my remington and getting the breech plug, but I started putting some anti-sieze breech plug stuff that TC made, and it improved the ability to turn the breech plug without a vise.

This stuff? I use the Knight grease and it doesn't work too well.

whacker1 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 19, 2009, 02:16:26 PM »

That is the stuff - and as Rasbo indicated - use liberally.

jrebel · « **Reply #13 on:** June 19, 2009, 04:07:37 PM »

All great advice. I really don't care if it is traditional or modern. I want the best bang for my buck and an accurate/realiable muzzle loader. I have read alot about peep sights and think that is the way to go, so probably a model that will take an aftermarket peep.

stumprat · « **Reply #14 on:** June 19, 2009, 04:14:52 PM »

I use Knight lube and always loosen mine by hand with the wrench. You have to use it liberally.

actionshooter · « **Reply #15 on:** June 19, 2009, 05:44:49 PM »

Quote from: jrebel on June 19, 2009, 04:07:37 PM

All great advice. I really don't care if it is traditional or modern. I want the best bang for my buck and an accurate/realiable muzzle loader. I have read alot about peep sights and think that is the way to go, so probably a model that will take an aftermarket peep.

Then your probably looking at a modern style. I use a williams peep with good results. There are a bunch of different styles to choose from.

jrebel · « **Reply #16 on:** June 19, 2009, 07:38:53 PM »

How do the Traditions muzzle loaders rank??? The seem to be inexpensive??

actionshooter · « **Reply #17 on:** June 19, 2009, 08:02:45 PM »

Quote from: jrebel on June 19, 2009, 07:38:53 PM

How do the Traditions muzzle loaders rank??? The seem to be inexpensive??

you get what you pay for

jrebel · « **Reply #18 on:** June 19, 2009, 10:24:34 PM »

that bad huh??? They are pretty cheap

Blsum · « **Reply #19 on:** June 19, 2009, 11:31:31 PM »

Quote from: jrebel on June 19, 2009, 10:24:34 PM

that bad huh??? They are pretty cheap

My cousin has one. I'm not going to bad mouth anyone here but if you want to know what he's been dealing with shoot me a pm.

As for a new gun. If you can find a TC Black Diamond XR in stainless. Buy it. You can still find new Knight Bighorns in the stores. There's even been a few places that have had them on a Father's day sale.

rackattack · « **Reply #20 on:** June 19, 2009, 11:37:38 PM »

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You can still find new Knight Bighorns in the stores. There's even been a few places that have had them on a Father's day sale.

Thought I saw the new "Wholesale Sports" had them on sale. Thumbhole stock to boot.

Wacenturion · « **Reply #21 on:** June 20, 2009, 08:52:55 AM »

Quote from: rackattack on June 19, 2009, 11:37:38 PM

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You can still find new Knight Bighorns in the stores. There's even been a few places that have had them on a Father's day sale.

Thought I saw the new "Wholesale Sports" had them on sale. Thumbhole stock to boot.

On sale through this weekend. They are the black thumbhole stock, blue barrel finish.

3dsheetmetal · « **Reply #22 on:** June 20, 2009, 09:17:49 AM »

Was there yesterday at the one in Mt. Vernon and there on sale for $199.00

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