Possible record bull?

[Caseyd]

Serious question for those who know. Surprised it has not been asked yet.

Does this community have a HOA that dis-allows hunting? 

*******NOT saying it was shot in a HOA area, or even that any of this elk hunt was illegal********

Just a question

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 No hunting within suncadia. Suncadia tries to mitigate ground damage and has WDFW contacts in place for help if need be.

They tend to get hazed off suncadia ground. Couple fields they go to.

Mostly safe to assume he didn’t kill the bull literally “in” the borders of suncadia.

I would agree. Just trying to contribute to the HOA question. There are other HOAs in the area but much smaller.

[LDennis24]

Wow...this thread has so much flavor.
I knew this bull, as did most people in the Roslyn community.  As an adult bull he never once stepped foot on public land.  He hung out on the golf course, the cemetery, and people's yards...that's how he lived to such an old age and grew such an extraordinary world record set of antlers.
Is Casey a great elk hunter? Without a doubt.
But does the end justify the means?
Can he seriously look up at his wall of 400" bulls and be proud of his World Record?

So if it never left the resort land and city property where could he have shot it at? I have heard it traveled a bit further than that.

[TheKid#10]

I think I saw the gut pile by the sand trap to the left of the fairway on #6. 

[teanawayslayer]

Wow...this thread has so much flavor.
I knew this bull, as did most people in the Roslyn community.  As an adult bull he never once stepped foot on public land.  He hung out on the golf course, the cemetery, and people's yards...that's how he lived to such an old age and grew such an extraordinary world record set of antlers.
Is Casey a great elk hunter? Without a doubt.
But does the end justify the means?
Can he seriously look up at his wall of 400" bulls and be proud of his World Record?

that’s funny I work in there all the time and have never seen that bull. Seen some nice ones but nothing like that. Amazing what people throw out there. You guys should be ashamed!

[hunter100]

How far can one hunt from town to avoid this controversy? 1 mile? 5 miles? 10 miles? As far as I'm concerned as long as the hunt was legal there is absolutely nothing wrong with it, or hunting next to off limit areas.

The west is full of fringe land. This is ridiculous...

[buglebuster]

I guess the actual video of the hunt and kill shot has finally surfaced. It was off of the neighbors ring camera I kid people, I kid

[HntnFsh]

Wow...this thread has so much flavor.
I knew this bull, as did most people in the Roslyn community.  As an adult bull he never once stepped foot on public land.  He hung out on the golf course, the cemetery, and people's yards...that's how he lived to such an old age and grew such an extraordinary world record set of antlers.
Is Casey a great elk hunter? Without a doubt.
But does the end justify the means?
Can he seriously look up at his wall of 400" bulls and be proud of his World Record?

You have to have a ton of incredible pictures of such a magnificent bull then. Looking forward to you posting some of them up for all of us to see!

[CarbonHunter]

Serious question for those who know. Surprised it has not been asked yet.

Does this community have a HOA that dis-allows hunting? 

*******NOT saying it was shot in a HOA area, or even that any of this elk hunt was illegal********

Just a question

Incredible animal regardless of the circumstances that it was harvested...as long as it was legal. I don't know the specifics, but if this animal was harvested on a property that has HOA rules that prohibit hunting then it may not be a legal kill. Having been involved in a million dollar + HOA lawsuit that changed my life forever, HOA rules can be prosecuted in court and should not be ignored. Just as serious as a game animal that is killed on a property that has been posted as "NO HUNTING". Congrats to the hunter as long as it was done within the law...
Time will tell, someone on this forum knows what really happened and after reading 19 pages of this and I still don't know.

HOA rules are a matter of civil court and you can be sued for actual damages for your actions related to breaking of the rules. The sheriff is not going to come and throw you in jail for violating a CC&R but if the rule is also the law of the land then you can be prosecuted. Such as discharging a firearm in a firearm restricted area or trespassing.

Nothing in the fair chase doctrines say you must abide by the HOA CC&R’s 

[bornhunter]

I think I saw the gut pile by the sand trap to the left of the fairway on #6. 

It looks like a golf ball size wound.

[300rum]

 

Only thing Whitefoot is pissed about is that the bull didn’t make it to Jan 1!

[metlhead]

Just read through all these posts. Ouch. Didn't realize so much division on a successful hunt. Who knows. Anyway, private property taken game is just as quality and fair as public land game. Most timber company land is private and never seen a great bull get lambasted cuz it was on WeyCo. Also, if an HOA doesn't specifically exclude hunting, kill em. Could be why the smart fella grabbed his bow in a firearm restricted area. Well done Sir

[LDennis24]

Wow...this thread has so much flavor.
I knew this bull, as did most people in the Roslyn community.  As an adult bull he never once stepped foot on public land.  He hung out on the golf course, the cemetery, and people's yards...that's how he lived to such an old age and grew such an extraordinary world record set of antlers.
Is Casey a great elk hunter? Without a doubt.
But does the end justify the means?
Can he seriously look up at his wall of 400" bulls and be proud of his World Record?

You have to have a ton of incredible pictures of such a magnificent bull then. Looking forward to you posting some of them up for all of us to see!

If it's a yard bull then where are all the pics? I see 2 different times it was in proximity of someones house. Where are all the elk handlers that loved this elk and why aren't they themselves posting to prove it was shot in a driveway etc?

[LDennis24]

The local community group is full of pictures and videos of this bull over the years in yards and walking down the town streets.

The bull being the new World record from Washington is the only cool part of the story. The rest of the hunt is lacking integrity

Can you post some of the pics that are as you described above?

[CoryTDF]

I am just going to pop on here and say that I have met Casey several times years ago would have called him a friend as we duck hunted with him a bunch back in the day, and I knew his son a bit when he was a little guy too. Through meeting Casey I also became good buddies with his cousin Sean who helped spark my love of working dogs and competition. Every interaction, and I mean every single one, that I ever had with Casey was a positive one. I found him to be a man of means that never acted as such. He was always humble and always offered good advice and conversation. He was very helpful to me when I drew my bull tag in 2014. Overall, I think he is a great guy.

I also know that he is a top-notch hunter and a very skilled archer. The guy is the real deal. Yes, he has money, and that has allowed him to chase elk in ways most of us could only dream about. He has used the resources available to him just as ANY of us would. He did just that to harvest this bull. All that matters is that it was legal. Anyone with that tag in their pocket would have shot this bull and to say different is well, silly, as you're not in that position and likely never will be.   

Most people only complain because they are not in a position to do the same thing. This is just like me being upset when Limitless Outdoors flew their airplane right over my head and spotted the same elk I was hunting. They then came in and shot 3 bulls. I talked with them at length while in the woods and they were nice guys. I didn't make the airplane connection until I got home and watched his video. Anyway, I was a bit irritated, but my personal interaction with them was positive, so I let it go. Lord knows if I had a plane and a pilot's licenses, I would have been doing my scouting just like they were. So, it's all about perspective. So many folks complain about things they would do themselves if given the means and opportunity.

Anyway, just came on her to say congrats to Casey and to vouch for him as a good guy and hunter. I'm not going to get into a mudslinging fest here so if you make a huge post trying to do that you will be disappointed with my lack of response.       

[tluns]

When you all get done arguing can we get to the real question. How much meat did they get out of that big bull?