Possible record bull?

[kentrek]

When you all get done arguing can we get to the real question. How much meat did they get out of that big bull?

That bulls body was huge, it kind of hid his antlers in my opinion

[Dan-o]

When you all get done arguing can we get to the real question. How much meat did they get out of that big bull?

That bulls body was huge, it kind of hid his antlers in my opinion

That's kind of what I thought. 

The rack doesn't look as big when he's standing there live because his body is so dang huge.

I think his body is HUGE, even by big bull standards. At least , that's how i see it.

[2MANY]

Sometimes I pretend I'm scouting from an airplane.
Like to see you guys try that.

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Sounds like you're saying no one on here can pretend to scout from an airplane.

[LabChamp]

Yeah BUT this bull was a neighborhood bull. Locals fed it daily within a neighborhood. Great “trophy” for the guy who paid thousands for his tag. Well done 😂 “Master Hunter” 🤣 just proves the money pays for your “opportunity” Without his money this guy wouldn’t have jack under his belt. Just sayin.i guess it’s finally real for big game records. You get what you pay for. Sad day for all real sportsmen that don’t have thousands to dump into a tag. Because that’s where we are at. Thank you local “efforts” and clubs to making this into a bidding war

[TimberMuleys]

Yeah BUT this bull was a neighborhood bull. Locals fed it daily within a neighborhood. Great “trophy” for the guy who paid thousands for his tag. Well done “Master Hunter” just proves the money pays for your “opportunity” Without his money this guy wouldn’t have jack under his belt. Just sayin.i guess it’s finally real for big game records. You get what you pay for. Sad day for all real sportsmen that don’t have thousands to dump into a tag. Because that’s where we are at. Thank you local “efforts” and clubs to making this into a bidding war

He has killed 86 bulls with his bow. Big money or not that guy does have more experience putting down elk than just about anyone. Yes, he is hunting Rez, governor and raffle tags… but he used to hunt some lesser tags and his friends say he has put down bulls in otc units. Saying he wouldn’t have Jack under his belt is a stretch to me. You don’t kill 12 400”+ bulls with your bow with 0 elk hunting knowledge and skill. Money or not, he is capitalizing on his tags and nobody can fight against that. I’m not gonna fight with you about it being a neighborhood bull but acting like this guy can’t hunt is unnecessary. He’s not the one who posted making it seem like he had this grueling hunt, that was his son. If Beau hadn’t had posted what he did, there would be much less controversy over this bull.


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[LabChamp]

So you’re saying if this guy had a 60k a year job, he would’ve been just as successful? Maybe do some research on the facts of his “track record” he’s not the person he projects or projected himself as no matter how much money he dumped into SCI or WDFW for his ability to hunt where most can’t. It’s a pay to play game now. Props to those who support it and hope the inches make up for the lack of “fair chase” involved in the “hunt” this is what makes “sportsmanship and sportsman” alike look like fools.

[HntnFsh]

Yeah BUT this bull was a neighborhood bull. Locals fed it daily within a neighborhood. Great “trophy” for the guy who paid thousands for his tag. Well done “Master Hunter” just proves the money pays for your “opportunity” Without his money this guy wouldn’t have jack under his belt. Just sayin.i guess it’s finally real for big game records. You get what you pay for. Sad day for all real sportsmen that don’t have thousands to dump into a tag. Because that’s where we are at. Thank you local “efforts” and clubs to making this into a bidding war

He has killed 86 bulls with his bow. Big money or not that guy does have more experience putting down elk than just about anyone. Yes, he is hunting Rez, governor and raffle tags… but he used to hunt some lesser tags and his friends say he has put down bulls in otc units. Saying he wouldn’t have Jack under his belt is a stretch to me. You don’t kill 12 400”+ bulls with your bow with 0 elk hunting knowledge and skill. Money or not, he is capitalizing on his tags and nobody can fight against that. I’m not gonna fight with you about it being a neighborhood bull but acting like this guy can’t hunt is unnecessary. He’s not the one who posted making it seem like he had this grueling hunt, that was his son. If Beau hadn’t had posted what he did, there would be much less controversy over this bull.


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True. I think His son could use a trip to the woodshed.  Created quite a controversy for somebody that sounds like a heck of a guy and that most of us would like to be able to consider a friend. Whether there are elk involved or not.

[LabChamp]

Pay to play animals should have their own record book to sit on. Public land, over the counter, DIY tags should have their own. However, I personally know people involved in SCI that have been on the wrong side of the fence and broken laws. So I’m a little jaded on the whole “conservation” thing. Just another rich group of people trying to pretend like they don’t care about breaking records, or getting their name in the books (when that’s what they truly pay for at a convention auction)

[kentrek]

Sad day for all real sportsmen that don’t have thousands to dump into a tag.

Its a sad day because ?? Because.....you didnt kill it ? Because you want your name in the book ? Why do you care about records ?

[LabChamp]

Sad bc I won’t be able to tell my kids they have a chance competing with a millionaire for the same tag just bc we aren’t higher on the financial scale of life. And also sad seeing our “conservation” groups auction clearly trophy tags. As sportsmen we vow a cow is worth a bull when correct management is being upheld. I don’t see him holding a cow with his tag…. Just sayin. We better start practicing what we preach. We a bunch of antler hunters trying to break books, cool. Then say it like it is. We a bunch of people paying for high end tags not available to those who can’t pay, cool.. say it like it is. This whole “I’m a sportsmen for conservation” bs with the same people buying the tags year after trying to break the next record? It just proves the anti hunters right. It’s all about the trophy and we can’t do anything but back it up with the auction tags. Those buying the tags are buying a chance at a trophy. They truly aren’t there to help conserve at all, they can just afford to dump cash

[TVHunts]

Pay to play animals should have their own record book to sit on. Public land, over the counter, DIY tags should have their own. However, I personally know people involved in SCI that have been on the wrong side of the fence and broken laws. So I’m a little jaded on the whole “conservation” thing. Just another rich group of people trying to pretend like they don’t care about breaking records, or getting their name in the books (when that’s what they truly pay for at a convention auction)

Wow, nice rant! Thankfully, jealousy isn’t contagious!

[LabChamp]

I don’t have to be jealous of guys that can’t get over the “I’m bigger” competition. I got over that in high school. I’m not mad… just saying it like it is

[jackelope]

Sad bc I won’t be able to tell my kids they have a chance competing with a millionaire for the same tag just bc we aren’t higher on the financial scale of life. And also sad seeing our “conservation” groups auction clearly trophy tags. As sportsmen we vow a cow is worth a bull when correct management is being upheld. I don’t see him holding a cow with his tag…. Just sayin. We better start practicing what we preach. We a bunch of antler hunters trying to break books, cool. Then say it like it is. We a bunch of people paying for high end tags not available to those who can’t pay, cool.. say it like it is. This whole “I’m a sportsmen for conservation” bs with the same people buying the tags year after trying to break the next record? It just proves the anti hunters right. It’s all about the trophy and we can’t do anything but back it up with the auction tags. Those buying the tags are buying a chance at a trophy. They truly aren’t there to help conserve at all, they can just afford to dump cash

What’s being done with the cash they dump? Clearly them killing a bull or Billy or a giant buck has nothing to do with conservation. But what about the cash they spend? Where are we gonna replace that with?

[huntandjeep]

Yeah BUT this bull was a neighborhood bull. Locals fed it daily within a neighborhood. Great “trophy” for the guy who paid thousands for his tag. Well done “Master Hunter” just proves the money pays for your “opportunity” Without his money this guy wouldn’t have jack under his belt. Just sayin.i guess it’s finally real for big game records. You get what you pay for. Sad day for all real sportsmen that don’t have thousands to dump into a tag. Because that’s where we are at. Thank you local “efforts” and clubs to making this into a bidding war

He has killed 86 bulls with his bow. Big money or not that guy does have more experience putting down elk than just about anyone. Yes, he is hunting Rez, governor and raffle tags… but he used to hunt some lesser tags and his friends say he has put down bulls in otc units. Saying he wouldn’t have Jack under his belt is a stretch to me. You don’t kill 12 400”+ bulls with your bow with 0 elk hunting knowledge and skill. Money or not, he is capitalizing on his tags and nobody can fight against that. I’m not gonna fight with you about it being a neighborhood bull but acting like this guy can’t hunt is unnecessary. He’s not the one who posted making it seem like he had this grueling hunt, that was his son. If Beau hadn’t had posted what he did, there would be much less controversy over this bull.


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If he hadn't dropped big money on Raffle , Reservation and " other " tags . Would he still have killed 86 Bulls ? Would he still have 5 Bighorn sheep on his wall ? Would he have 12 bulls over 400" on the wall ? Would he have all the big deer from Oregon on his wall ? Would he be the " Best Bowhunter ever " according to his buddy Jay ( who has since deleted that post " ?