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Re: Public Land Sale Senate Budget Reconciliation
« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2025, 09:57:49 AM »
Guess you have to also consider what is affordable housing. To a billionaire 500 acres with a multimillon home on it is affordable housing.  Obviously an extreme example, but to many smaller rural communities 100 acres of previously public land subdivided into quarter acre lots with homes in the half million dollar range is not affordable housing. Scenic acreage subdivided and sold for vacation second homes is not what most of us consider affordable homes either.  I can assure you this is the type of affordable housing Lee and his cohorts invision. Just picture a couple "affordable" housing subdivisions around Twisp, or Kettle Falls, or White Pass. Just get that land turned over to local control so it's much easier to manipulate restrictions is what these crooks want. Hunting/Fishing and other outdoor recreation control are only minor parts of what these guys want, but if they can figure a way to make money doing it they will.

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Re: Public Land Sale Senate Budget Reconciliation
« Reply #31 on: June 19, 2025, 11:03:52 AM »
Emails sent to Senators. Glad to see this picking up the attention and support of big names in the outdoor/hunting industry.
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Re: Public Land Sale Senate Budget Reconciliation
« Reply #33 on: June 19, 2025, 03:02:07 PM »
Thanks for the info on this. I emailed my local representative, it was super quick and easy.
This is in the hands of Murray and Cantwell. Not your local rep.

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After a quick Google search, looks like Murry and Cantwell have both come out in opposition to selling off public lands.
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Re: Public Land Sale Senate Budget Reconciliation
« Reply #34 on: June 19, 2025, 03:17:31 PM »
FWIW - This is a Grok Deep Search generated review of the primary pros and cons of the proposal.

https://grok.com/chat/570a1af6-bcc9-472d-99f3-e8367eddc828
« Last Edit: June 19, 2025, 06:14:19 PM by MR5x5 »

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Re: Public Land Sale Senate Budget Reconciliation
« Reply #35 on: June 19, 2025, 05:52:17 PM »
Thanks for the info on this. I emailed my local representative, it was super quick and easy.
This is in the hands of Murray and Cantwell. Not your local rep.

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After a quick Google search, looks like Murry and Cantwell have both come out in opposition to selling off public lands.

That's the first good thing I've heard from them.

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Re: Public Land Sale Senate Budget Reconciliation
« Reply #36 on: June 19, 2025, 06:41:36 PM »
In the Rockies, people like to build home on south facing slopes. This is also the best winter range. We have already lost too much winter range to homes. This plan will decimate mule deer, antelope and elk.
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Re: Public Land Sale Senate Budget Reconciliation
« Reply #37 on: June 19, 2025, 09:09:07 PM »
While I'm 100% against this land sale provision in the spending bill, full stop, I think we need to keep things in perspective. 

The Outdoor Alliance maps show the total of 300 million acres that could be eligible for sale - but the bill only requires up to 3.3 million acres to be sold.  About 1.1% of the total land that is eligible.

If your favorite place is in that 1.1% that ends up being sold, of course it's a devastating loss.  Nearly all of my favorite places up here are on the chopping block, and we don't have nearly the user base to protect it that lower 48 states do.  I'm very concerned.

But I think it's important to keep things in perspective.  A lot of the conversation I'm hearing/seeing on this shows the map images, and assumes it will all be sold.

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Re: Public Land Sale Senate Budget Reconciliation
« Reply #38 on: June 19, 2025, 09:10:58 PM »
So the same senators that are ruining our state we now expect to save our lands for hunting and access?They are not going to advocate for gun carrying hunters.

Have you spent actual time in the woods and seen the user base that’s out there? The majority of them are not hunters. REI is pushing against this hard. Probably harder than most org’s are. They’re anti hunting. You’ve got everything from hikers to bird watchers to campers to rock climbers. You name it. This affects everyone.
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Re: Public Land Sale Senate Budget Reconciliation
« Reply #39 on: June 19, 2025, 09:21:24 PM »
While I'm 100% against this land sale provision in the spending bill, full stop, I think we need to keep things in perspective. 

The Outdoor Alliance maps show the total of 300 million acres that could be eligible for sale - but the bill only requires up to 3.3 million acres to be sold.  About 1.1% of the total land that is eligible.

If your favorite place is in that 1.1% that ends up being sold, of course it's a devastating loss.  Nearly all of my favorite places up here are on the chopping block, and we don't have nearly the user base to protect it that lower 48 states do.  I'm very concerned.

But I think it's important to keep things in perspective.  A lot of the conversation I'm hearing/seeing on this shows the map images, and assumes it will all be sold.

I like you, sir. Don’t take this the wrong way at all please, but who cares. Give an in hunch, they’ll take a mile.

 :chuckle:  All good,  no worries. I'm not advocating for giving them the inch by any means, by the way.
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Re: Public Land Sale Senate Budget Reconciliation
« Reply #40 on: June 20, 2025, 08:05:13 AM »
Here is BHA's easy button...
https://www.backcountryhunters.org/bha_condemns_senate_proposal_to_sell_off_up_to_3_million_acres_of_public_lands

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And the neat thing is you can reach out more than once. A person could call/email their Senators every day if they are so inclined. The more they hear from us the better.

Once public land is privatized, we'll never get it back.
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Re: Public Land Sale Senate Budget Reconciliation
« Reply #41 on: June 20, 2025, 08:25:10 AM »
Montana   Sen. Steve Daines has exempted Montana from any sale of public lands.

https://cowboystatedaily.com/2025/06/18/by-the-way-montana-is-exempt-from-public-land-sales-in-budget-bill/
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Re: Public Land Sale Senate Budget Reconciliation
« Reply #42 on: June 20, 2025, 09:35:56 AM »
Keep up the emails and calls. Tell everyone you know who recreates outdoors whether a hunter or not, everyone in the West has something to lose in this. Non- hunting coworkers were upset about this when I told them what is proposed in the bill. We all have a common interest in opposing this.
Randy Newburg does a good summary about this on Fresh Tracks. Lots of political maneuvering to try to get this through. Example, excluding Montana a political maneuver to discredit Montana's representatives and senators vocal opposition to the sale of federal lands.

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Re: Public Land Sale Senate Budget Reconciliation
« Reply #43 on: June 22, 2025, 08:01:15 PM »
This is making the rounds on the FB.




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Re: Public Land Sale Senate Budget Reconciliation
« Reply #44 on: June 22, 2025, 08:26:18 PM »
I hadn't seen that yet... very skeptical honestly... nothing yet makes me trust this guy.

 


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