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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #75 on: July 25, 2009, 08:48:53 PM »
And, I would make a bet that the premium ammo will do it - in fact, i would be willing to waste $40 just to see.  

Do a search on factory .300 velocities.  Most will tell you 2980 or less.  Shot it through a chony with a 24 inch barrel and you will get a hair over 2900.

I rely on what my chrono tells me after 10 years and 3, 300 win mags.....I can't see new factory ammo to be that far behind?  Here is the first premium ammo I looked up (Okay, not the first, but it helps my side of the argument :chuckle::

300 WIN MAG 180 GR Spire Point HEAVY MAG 8500
Velocity (fps) / Energy (ft-lbs)
Muzzle 100 yd 200 yd 300 yd 400 yd 500 yd
3100/3840 2872/3296 2655/2817 2448/2396 2251/2025 2063/1701
 
Trajectory (inches)
Muzzle 100 yd 200 yd 300 yd 400 yd 500 yd
-1.5 1.40 0.00 -6.3 -18.4 -37.4
 
That being said, you are right in the fact that custom ammo can be faster than factory.....I have not chrono'ed every brand of factory ammo (or any factory ammo for that matter), so I can't argue with you.  But, I will argue with the mentality of someone buying a .300 win mag and going with a 24" pipe and strictly shooting factory ammo?  Like putting a governor on a sports car - you buy magnum rifles for maximum capability - high performance is what you want, if not, you'd shoot a naught 6.   :chuckle:  Too much golfing and drinking today, so if this doesn't make any sense - please disregard :chuckle:


How many did you find first that said less than 3000 be honest.

I agree with you on shooting strictly factory ammo.  Its a waste of what the gun can truely do.  4 or 5 years ago I bought a .270wsm right before hunting season and couldn't find any dies for it.  It was the first time I had ever shot factory ammo through one of my own guns.  I tried a few different brands but never found anything that I really liked.  I did kill a deer that year with it.  Its the only deer or elk that I have ever killed with factory ammo.
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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #76 on: July 25, 2009, 08:50:22 PM »
Do I really need to explain? You said the worst are the .264's. I love them.

You know what would be great?  a 264 WSM.

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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #77 on: July 25, 2009, 08:51:09 PM »
Do I really need to explain? You said the worst are the .264's. I love them.

Now i'm with you.  You like a 7mag necked down to .264.  Or do you tell everyone it's a 338 necked down to .264.  :chuckle:
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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #78 on: July 25, 2009, 08:52:10 PM »
Do I really need to explain? You said the worst are the .264's. I love them.

You know what would be great?  a 264 WSM.

I've never thought about that but you're right.
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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #79 on: July 25, 2009, 08:52:54 PM »
Hmmm how bout a 50BMGSSM, my vote is for the 7mm mag, i own own though but think it's over rated.
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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #80 on: July 25, 2009, 08:53:25 PM »
Do I really need to explain? You said the worst are the .264's. I love them.

Gotta agree Gut.  The 6.5's are awesome.  There is a Wildcat based off of the 264 win mag -  I believe it is called the 24 incinerator?  I just remember it would reportly spit out a 70 grain BT at around 4400.  Can you say "bad 'yote medicine"?

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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #81 on: July 25, 2009, 08:54:35 PM »
Do I really need to explain? You said the worst are the .264's. I love them.

You know what would be great?  a 264 WSM.

I've never thought about that but you're right.

They have one. It's called a 6.5 Rem Mag but it's really pretty weak. A 6.5 swede or a 260 would do just about the same. I have one of each.

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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #82 on: July 25, 2009, 08:55:36 PM »
Do I really need to explain? You said the worst are the .264's. I love them.

You know what would be great?  a 264 WSM.

I've never thought about that but you're right.

Yes but of course it wouldn't really be any different than the 7mm WSM that is already available.  :)

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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #83 on: July 25, 2009, 08:55:55 PM »
My uncle shoots a 264 mag....he has killed about a dozen bull elk with it.....truly an awesome gun but also tougher on barrels than the 7 mag.
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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #84 on: July 25, 2009, 09:05:55 PM »
Anyone notice that the 25-06 has no votes. 
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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #85 on: July 25, 2009, 09:07:24 PM »
Anyone notice that the 25-06 has no votes. 

Yep, I noticed. I'd actually like one some day. I've heard nothing but good about them. They're still the ugly stepchild IMO.

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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #86 on: July 25, 2009, 09:08:38 PM »
Anyone notice that the 25-06 has no votes. 

'Cause then they'd have to argue with JoshT!

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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #87 on: July 25, 2009, 09:09:35 PM »
 
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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #88 on: July 25, 2009, 09:10:26 PM »
Anyone notice that the 25-06 has no votes. 

'Cause then they'd have to argue with JoshT!

This is a debate not an argument.  :chuckle:  Right?
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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #89 on: July 25, 2009, 09:11:00 PM »
Anyone notice that the 25-06 has no votes. 

'Cause then they'd have to argue with JoshT!

 :chuckle:  :chuckle:  :chuckle:  :chuckle: I remember that. That was an awesome thread. It's pretty much the only cartridge that'll kill a coyote outright.  :chuckle:  :chuckle:  :chuckle:

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