Who Counts the Eye ,,,,,

[bow4elk]

No matter how long they are, I don't count them, even doubles.

 

why?

yeah, why?  I know a guy who calls a 5 pt bull a 3 pt with double eye guards.  How ridiculous can it get?! 

[bowhunterforever]

Heres how i count them on mule deer if its a 4x4 with eyesguards i call it a 4x4 with eyeguards,but if i was scoring the deer i would score the eyeguards too.Whitetail a 4x4 with eyeguards is a 5x5, count eyeguards on whitetails.

[JackOfAllTrades]

All points longer than one inch get counted in my book. "Boon and Crocket and Pope and Young" count them.

Now.. I've got a little blacktail rack with some nasty stickers that jut out from the base that don't really look like brow tines that are yet... an inch long or so. I don't count them as points.

Now.. Did I just counterdict myself?

-Steve

[bobcat]

To me, a point is NOT a point. For minimum antler point restrictions, sure, an eyeguard counts as a point so that a 2 point buck with an eyeguard meets the 3 point minimum. But I would call it just what it is, a 2 point with eyeguards. I would not refer to it as a 3 point buck.

[bow4elk]

All points longer than one inch get counted in my book. "Boon and Crocket and Pope and Young" count them.

Now.. I've got a little blacktail rack with some nasty stickers that jut out from the base that don't really look like brow tines that are yet... an inch long or so. I don't count them as points.

Now.. Did I just counterdict myself?

-Steve

If they meet the defintion of a scorable point by B&C/P&Y, then they are indeed points.  I scored a 159" Non-Typical blacktail last year that had bases like a porcupine!!  Very unique and many were scorable points.

[7mag.]

Heres how i count them on mule deer if its a 4x4 with eyesguards i call it a 4x4 with eyeguards,but if i was scoring the deer i would score the eyeguards too.Whitetail a 4x4 with eyeguards is a 5x5, count eyeguards on whitetails.

+1. But, an eyeguard is a G1. Elk have brow tines, deer have eyeguards.

[walt]

Heres how i count them on mule deer if its a 4x4 with eyesguards i call it a 4x4 with eyeguards,but if i was scoring the deer i would score the eyeguards too.Whitetail a 4x4 with eyeguards is a 5x5, count eyeguards on whitetails.

Me too.  It's the way we've(my family and most friends) always done it.  I think its old school when no one cared about a score and there weren't point restrictions, just fill the freezer.  Not really sure why we count the whitetails guards.  Maybe we just can't count.

[littlebuf]

okay, me and dad got a 3x3 black tail with one eye guard, my dad is from the east coast and he refers to the deer as a 7 pointer. hows this fit in to the discussion

[Hunterman]

When I was growing up, an elk ( lets say what is called today as a 5 point ) was a 3 point, you didn't count the 2 lower points. They were called the eye guard and brush guard.. I think today we are too concerned with the point count, and how the animal measures up..I'm a meat hunter too, but I'll let that 2 point with eye guards walk in a 3 point or better area.

Hunterman(Tony)

[7mag.]

okay, me and dad got a 3x3 black tail with one eye guard, my dad is from the east coast and he refers to the deer as a 7 pointer. hows this fit in to the discussion

On the East Coast or in the south or Midwest, pretty much anywhere that the only deer is a whitetail, they count total points. In the Rocky Mountain, or Western states, we count each side seperately. Eye guards are a legal point, I call them that to paint a better picture of what I am talking about, ie, 3x3 with eyeguards, etc. I think the difference is that whitetails grow very long eyeguards, as mulies and blacktails usually do not. Often a mulie or blacktail may not even have eyeguards, but a whitetail almost always has them.

[Hunterman]

Eastern count everything, western count, you count the largest size.

Hunterman(Tony)

[EastWaViking]

Heres how i count them on mule deer if its a 4x4 with eyesguards i call it a 4x4 with eyeguards,but if i was scoring the deer i would score the eyeguards too.Whitetail a 4x4 with eyeguards is a 5x5, count eyeguards on whitetails.

Same way here.  Kind of weird when you think about it.

[shoot-em-dead]

I count everything just like every published magazine in the US. The western way is completely fubar and has no benefit. An eight point buck is just that. I don't understand the concept of changing it to a 3x3 with eyeguards. Just wasting your breath trying to embellish your story?

[7mag.]

I count everything just like every published magazine in the US. The western way is completely fubar and has no benefit. An eight point buck is just that. I don't understand the concept of changing it to a 3x3 with eyeguards. Just wasting your breath trying to embellish your story?

No, if I called it a 4x4, then it would sound bigger than it actually is. Eye guards on Mulies and blacktails are usually not very big, often not even there. That is why, I personaly, describe them as eye guards instead of just another point, even though they are a legal point, if an inch or more. Whitetails have a different pattern which results in the the eye guards often being the longest points, or at least very long. There is no right or wrong, just personal preference. You can describe it however you like, I do it this way because I believe that it paints a clearer picture of what I am trying to describe. I am not trying to embellish any thing, the opposite, in fact.

[shoot-em-dead]

I meant embellish the story by taking longer to tell it. We could all tell storys in a short or long version and either would usually entertain me.