sheep pics needed

[popeshawnpaul]

I have heard a rumor there might be another ram down...   

[huntnphool]

 

[jackelope]

pretty confident saying the auction(governors tag) guy is not tagged out.
not positive, but i don't believe so.

maybe the raffle tag guy?

[huntnphool]

Raffle tag is done

[300ShortMag]

I have heard a rumor there might be another ram down...   

Sweet, did he have a hitch in his giddyup?

[popeshawnpaul]

Yep.

[boneaddict]

I'm surprised that you guys think there are rams that sized crawling all over this unit.  I've seen A LOT of rams on this mountain and most of them aren't that big.     If there were, I'd sure think the record would be higher and the govenor tag guys wouldn't be mostly shooting 170 rams elsewhere.

[popeshawnpaul]

I don't think there are 170 rams all over that mountain.  I've only seen one 170+ ram and 300shortmag's friend shot it.  I have heard rumors of a limp ram that is supposed to go 170.  There may be more than one 170 ram.  Plus, a guide I know has been watching a 170 ram in Cleman for a month now.  Not sure if it's the same one I had at 172 or if they are different rams but I suspect they are the same ram.  The raffle tag holder tagged out in Cleman last Saturday with a 160 class ram.

The auction tag holder is not looking in Cleman much for a big ram.  They had the 170 ram spotted as a backup ram.  They are looking elsewhere but it's a lot easier to access Cleman than get a boat and find a Manson ram.  Umptanum isn't easy to access so nobody wants to go in there despite the fact that I found and have pictures of 2 rams that approach or exceed 170".

It is very possible there are no 170 rams in Cleman right now.  That mountain is crawling with 150 and 160 rams and it's hard to differentiate between a 160 and a 170 ram.  A lot of people mis judge and just are happy with a nice ram and so the average hunt lasts about a day or two.  The record isn't higher because WA hasn't started producing rams like this until fairly recently.  We just planted Manson about 10 years ago and we only give out 1 tag in Swakane if that every now and then.  The Cleman population had a lot of problems for a while until they supplemented the herd with new genetic stock. 

Plus, not everyone enters their rams in the book. 

[boneaddict]

    We are on the same page.

[carpsniperg2]

o boy i hope he post some pictures soon if he did get one. i am crawling around in my seat i can't wait like a kid for xmas i love seeing those special tags filled

[300ShortMag]

Very cool.  That ram with a bum hind right is BIG.  He's the 2nd biggest ram we saw during our time up there.

[WDFW-SUX]

Pics please.

[AKBowman]

Do you think the other one is bigger or smaller?

For the record I think the first one in the blurry pics is larger but not by much maybe 4-5 inches at best ... pretty much the same mass but longer IMO.  I think he will find a larger one to take!

The one in the blurry pic is longer by 4 inches or more. I need to see more pics. I'm sure he is having a blast up there. Hopefully he sticks with the bow. Is he shooting a compound?

[popeshawnpaul]

He did end up getting one with a rifle.  The one in the blurry pic was nice but on the first day it was smart to pass knowing the 172" ram that the older gentleman in the other thread got was out there so he held out.  A smart decision in my opinion.  We'll all wait to see what he got and the story. 

[andrew_12gauge]

whyd he switch to rifle so early, either way cant wait to see pics of the ram he got