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Re: need ti figure out a way to get the game dept. to buy this
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2009, 06:35:29 AM »
Dang, thats something even a website membership base could afford little by little.  :chuckle:

$300 an acre? wow. Even if its just to have your OWN campsite for Elk & Deer camp lol!
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Re: need ti figure out a way to get the game dept. to buy this
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2009, 07:29:03 AM »
I'm in for 300 now we just need 636 more of us, I wouldn't mind pitching in 300 to get at least on section to donate to the mule deer foundation.
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Re: need ti figure out a way to get the game dept. to buy this
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2009, 07:33:10 AM »
I'm in for 300 now we just need 636 more of us, I wouldn't mind pitching in 300 to get at least on section to donate to the mule deer foundation.

That's an interesting idea...

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Re: need ti figure out a way to get the game dept. to buy this
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2009, 07:38:07 AM »
I'm in for 300 now we just need 636 more of us, I wouldn't mind pitching in 300 to get at least on section to donate to the mule deer foundation.

Make it 635 more of us!  Im in.
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Re: need ti figure out a way to get the game dept. to buy this
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2009, 08:00:16 AM »
put me down for a couple acres

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Re: need ti figure out a way to get the game dept. to buy this
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2009, 08:30:00 AM »
this will be ugly in the wrong hands.. wish the elk foundation, sheep foundation, mule deer foundation, turkey foundation,
ibo, sci, ( who else have i given money to) could ban together to buy up a few tracks of this land.

you could count me in for an acre

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Re: need ti figure out a way to get the game dept. to buy this
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2009, 08:37:11 AM »
I'm sure that this will not be very popular idea. However, being as the state of Washington is included in the range of the wolf, and there is a population of wolves residing in this area. Would this property fall under the Endangered species act clause allowing for funding of programs to maintain critical habitat for endangered species?

Is this a valid argument? Opinions? (As if I needed to ask for them.  :chuckle:)

I don't know what the repercussions of using this funding would be on hunting access. Anyone know?
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Re: need ti figure out a way to get the game dept. to buy this
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2009, 08:38:09 AM »
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wish the elk foundation, sheep foundation, mule deer foundation, turkey foundation,
ibo, sci, ( who else have i given money to) could ban together to buy up a few tracks of this land.

 :yeah:
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Re: need ti figure out a way to get the game dept. to buy this
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2009, 08:55:01 AM »
Tough to get anything done by the 18th.
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Re: need ti figure out a way to get the game dept. to buy this
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2009, 12:45:28 PM »
Is there no one on this site that belongs to the Wenatchee Mule Deer chapter that could get the ball rolling? I'm still in for my $300 as long as it goes to this property purchase!
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Re: need ti figure out a way to get the game dept. to buy this
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2009, 07:56:10 AM »
Got a response about this from the head of endangered species at WDFW

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It was recently brought to my attention that some property, in Chelan county, that is owned and managed by Longview Fibre is coming up for public sale. We all know that the state budget is suffering and there is no site of a turnaround, so WDFW could not afford these properties, but can federal funds be used to purchase this property of interest under some kind of wildlife restoration for endangered species fund? While the wolves are a hot topic, I would not be opposed to seeing this land be turned over to state or federal control, to benefit the expansion of the wolves within our state.  Now as long as access remains open to the public and they do not completely shut down the land I would be happy to help make this happen. I would hate to see good sustainable forest be sold to the public and loose even more viable wildlife habitat then we already have. Looking at the fact sheet for grants we (the state of Washington) has received millions for these kind of projects. I realize that the deadline has expired but are there any steps to get the ball rolling and possibly buy up some of this prime habitat. Included is the link to the article stating the land for sale. http://www.wenatcheeworld.com/news/2009/oct/23/need-a-cabin-site-longview-fibre-tracts-on-the/#WES
 
 
Thanks for your time,

Their response
Dear Mr. 

I appreciate you alerting WDFW to the sale of these Longview Fibre tracts north of Cashmere, WA.  I coordinate the Cooperative Endangered Species grant program for WDFW but do not nominate sites for acquisition.  This is done by our regional staff, so I am referring this information to David Volsen, our District Wildlife Biologist in Wenatchee and Matt Monda, Regional Manager in Ephrata.  They have knowledge of the wildlife and habitats in this area and can determine whether it would be a priority for WDFW to own or perhaps suggest purchase by a forest investment trust or other conservation entity.  Here is the link to the real estate broker’s website, http://www.rmnw-auctions.com/.

 

I am referring your email to the local land trust and Pacific Forest Trust for their suggestions as well.

Chelan-Douglas Land Trust
15 Palouse St
Wenatchee, WA 98801-2230
 Phone: (509) 667-9708
Fax: (509) 667-0719
E-Mail: cdlt@cdlandtrust.org
Website: www.cdlandtrust.org
 

 

Pacific Forest Trust

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Phone: 206.682.0677

http://www.pacificforest.org/

 

We appreciate your support in maintaining working forest lands for wildlife conservation and recreation.

 

Elizabeth Rodrick

Land Conservation Manager

Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife

600 Capitol Way N

Olympia, WA 98501-1091

360-902-2696

FAX 360-902-2162

elizabeth.rodrick@dfw.wa.gov


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Re: need ti figure out a way to get the game dept. to buy this
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2009, 11:18:51 AM »
Hey, that's a response anyway. Thanks for sending the email and keeping us up to date.

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Re: need ti figure out a way to get the game dept. to buy this
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2009, 11:26:26 AM »
who knows  :dunno: i don't know anyone from that chapter
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Re: need ti figure out a way to get the game dept. to buy this
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2009, 11:42:41 AM »
Reading the comments below the article this guy pretty much nailed it.

">Doing the math you're getting 673 acres for what it would cost for FOUR acres in East Wenatchee. Pretty huge price diff. for WAY more land.<
 
Yep, you get way more land, but what can you do with it? You can't develop it. You probably need a special permit just to cut down a single tree after you conduct an environmental impact assessment, lol. In short, Longview Fibre wants out and they're looking for someone to assume their risk. Build a cabin on it? Try obtaining a building permit first. You can't divert a stream for any purpose so maybe you could sink a well--permit required. If you can get 5 GPM for drinking water, then you have to put in a "waste treatment facility"--better known as a septic and drain-field--permit required along with numerous inspections and additional environmental impact assessments, lol. No power drop available so you have to go off-grid and do solar cuz your SO refuses to cut and split wood while you drink beer and belch orders. Most of these parcels are "south slope" offerings which means very hot and very dry for about 8 months out of the year--think fire hazard and associated liability. All things considered, without logging rights, it's virtually worthless unless you can find enough investors willing to put up equal amounts of money to buy one parcel outright and then share in an "undivided interest" that would allow all owners to share equally in the ownership benefits as well as the ownership responsibilities and liabilities--good luck with that, considering all the legal ramifications."

I would be surprised if any of this is purchased by any private individual.  If any or all of it is bought it will most likely be by a land trust or something.  It would be nice to see the USFS buy this land. 

There has been a lot of former Longview property up for auction over the last few years. 
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