o.k i got them up i got this deer today about 8:45am, my uncle, his son, and son inlaw came up today to hunt. my cousin by marriage got his deer last saturday. so it was just me and my uncle with our tags left. usally i wait tell last day holding out for the toad but with 2 days left thought this deer would do fine. the shot was 70 yards 125 pyxro loose and 290 tmz barnes. great stalk got right up to the group there was about 20 does 130 yards away with a small buck. we were like were is the big buck one doe finaly came up at about 80 yards on our side of the draw them this guy came up with her. he is a 4x5 so he is a 3x4 with eye gaurds great hunt with family lots of fun and a good buck can't beat that.