OUT OF CONTROL WOLVES Pack IN WA! 12/06/09

[Axle]

Everyone is different and I cant make everyone to agree eachother.  Thanks Bearpaw for write!

You can't? That's not what I heard Mulehunter. Word on the street has it that you can force people to agree using midevil tactics. I wouldn't want to be your opposition! Oh baby!
 

[luvtohnt]

So has anyone ever thought that maybe the game department is sticking up for us? Scenario: If the pro wolf lobbyist knew that there where more than one pack in the methow with minimal depredation and impact on wildlife occuring would they want more pack numbers before we delist? Just a thought I was having as I re-read through this post, also don't they have to have pups through December in order to be listed as a pack? Maybe in a month or so we will have 2 or 3 new packs. Just some thinking and feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

Brandon

[wolfbait]

I wonder how many wolves Washington will have before all of the packs required are confirmed. 

[boneaddict]

I still say we should be able to confirm them by handing in their tails or ears.  Think of all the running around money they will save trying to find the evidence.  Redneck moment.

[wolfbait]

Some of us had the idea of shooting off the tails so to better document those wolves that we had already seen. The Methow could have a brand new species "Tailless wolves of the Methow" Then we got into the discussion of neutering at the same time. Nothing "redneck" about it, we just don't have a budget like wdfw. 

[bearpaw]

So has anyone ever thought that maybe the game department is sticking up for us? Scenario: If the pro wolf lobbyist knew that there where more than one pack in the methow with minimal depredation and impact on wildlife occuring would they want more pack numbers before we delist?

That would be nice, but I doubt that is the case. Most of us who have been following this issue closely know that the Defenders of Wildlife have strong ties with the WDFW, this is evidenced by the Defenders links on the WDFW website and by the recommendations WDFW has in the draft wolf plan.

There are WDFW employees who are pro hunting and those that are not necessarily that much in favor of hunting. I think we are all seeing the effects of WDFW personel who do not necessarily support hunting.

The key thing to remember is that the Commission sets management policies and the WDFW implements those management policies. If you want any chance to make a difference, write the commission....

[mountainman1]

What do you guys here about more wolves released near Conconully, I here they have been seen near Buzzard Lake, Big & Black?

[Special T]

Would it be Illegal to Live trap wolves and then stick a collar on them? Maybe we could find a way to do their job for them? It would be a lot of work but it could force them to do their job... What if we concentrated in a specific area that we knew were there were wolves and the WDFW denies they are there? what are your ideas? I know I plan on putting my camera out where i think there are some...

[wolfbait]

Well mountainman1 thats old news, by the way, where do you live? Whats your name? do you run livestock?? Don't get offended, just trying to help twisp river slayer out, you will probably get a PM from him. I can send you the pm's he sent me if you are interested,

[wolfbait]

Would it be Illegal to Live trap wolves and then stick a collar on them? Maybe we could find a way to do their job for them? It would be a lot of work but it could force them to do their job... What if we concentrated in a specific area that we knew were there were wolves and the WDFW denies they are there? what are your ideas? I know I plan on putting my camera out where i think there are some...

How about if we just get a link to the wolves that they already are tracking. I think it can be done.

[wolfbait]

Would it be Illegal to Live trap wolves and then stick a collar on them? Maybe we could find a way to do their job for them? It would be a lot of work but it could force them to do their job... What if we concentrated in a specific area that we knew were there were wolves and the WDFW denies they are there? what are your ideas? I know I plan on putting my camera out where i think there are some...

Are you trying to make wdfw look bad? Shoot, before long everyone will realize that they have wolves. New corridors, no people allowed of course, bigger parks many restrictions, and the list goes on. Welcome to the Wolf Tool, a lot like the Spotted Owl tool. wdfw will still be saying two confirmed wolf packs in Washington, s.fitkin will be saying "never seen so many deer, deer every where" Free late season tags".

[mulehunter]

I still say we should be able to confirm them by handing in their tails or ears.  Think of all the running around money they will save trying to find the evidence.  Redneck moment.

Wish some more Redneck out there that could just Mail it thur FEDEX and have them deliver to WDFW OFFICE Instead Canandian and It Will do better Evidence and cheaper!!    Make sure Note included.... IS THIS 2nd PACK or have you already Confirmed this 2nd pack in same Gmu during summer 09? But The okanogan side have their own wolf problems, Scott fitkin just can't find the Chronicle paper phone number.

ANY SUGGEST....  


Mulehunter  

[Special T]

I feel like i need to go hug a bunny with all the attitude copped at me! 

[wolfbait]

I still say we should be able to confirm them by handing in their tails or ears.  Think of all the running around money they will save trying to find the evidence.  Redneck moment.

Wish some more Redneck out there that could just Mail it thur FEDEX and have them deliver to WDFW OFFICE Instead Canandian and It Will do better Evidence and cheaper!!    Make sure Note included.... IS THIS 2nd PACK or have you already Confirmed this 2nd pack in same Gmu during summer 09? But The okanogan side have their own wolf problems, Scott fitkin just can't find the Chronicle paper phone number.

ANY SUGGEST....  


Mulehunter  

Mulehunter, you look up the Chronicle phone number, send me pm, I will pm twisp river slayer and then he can go tell fitkin. problem solved, everyone will be real happy at wdfw

[wolfbait]

I feel like i need to go hug a bunny with all the attitude copped at me! 

Better get after it, cuz soon the bunnies will be gone also. Only folks left will be carrying long shooters and lots of ammo. and maybe a late tag or two. Compliments of s.fitkin and his many deer!!!