Is 40gr .223 suitable for yotes?

[shaneman153D]

Are you actually comparing a .223 to a .204?      

Yes I am.

204 Ruger 32 gr. V-MAX 83204 4225/1268 3645/944 3137/699 2683/512 2272/367 1899/256
223 Rem   40 gr. V-MAX 8325   3800/1282 3249/937 2762/677 2324/479 1928/330 1578/221
 

[Big10gauge]

My bad, I thought you wanted to compare apples to apples (40gr .224 to 40 gr .204) 

[wastickslinger]

.204 ROCKS!!!!!

[huntnphool]

40gr. Nosler Ballistic Tips is what I use, they seem to work well with a 1:10 twist and 20" barrel, my bro uses the same with his 24".

[shaneman153D]

My bad, I thought you wanted to compare apples to apples (40gr .224 to 40 gr .204) 

I can't believe the .204 has more energy.

I just looked it up, I didn't know the .204 took a bigger powder charge.

[demontang]

Ok I just looked up my reload data. 3600-3700 for the .204 with the .40gr an 3500-3600 for the .223 40gr. Now with the nosler bt the two 40gr are only a few .01bc apart. I loaded them in my bc program An with both moving at 3600 there's only 3" diff at 500yds.

.204 at 500yds is 43.6 low with 256ftlb
.223 at 500yds is 46.7 low with 222ftlb

so to me they are pretty damn close real mv makes a diff I haven't seen a .204 push a 40 at 3900 though a crono or a 32gr at 4200. An yes I had one for half a year. :p

[bowhunterforever]

.204 ROCKS!!!!!

[shaneman153D]

Ok I just looked up my reload data. 3600-3700 for the .204 with the .40gr an 3500-3600 for the .223 40gr. Now with the nosler bt the two 40gr are only a few .01bc apart. I loaded them in my bc program An with both moving at 3600 there's only 3" diff at 500yds.

.204 at 500yds is 43.6 low with 256ftlb
.223 at 500yds is 46.7 low with 222ftlb

so to me they are pretty damn close real mv makes a diff I haven't seen a .204 push a 40 at 3900 though a crono or a 32gr at 4200. An yes I had one for half a year. :p

Yes they are very similar.  I think I like the .223 because it should leave a bigger hole.  However doping the wind should be easier with the .204, as it has higher sectional density.  Meh, RRA only makes ARs in .223 so I went with that.  I would want one in 22-250 or 220 swift if I could get it!

[wastickslinger]

Ok I just looked up my reload data. 3600-3700 for the .204 with the .40gr an 3500-3600 for the .223 40gr. Now with the nosler bt the two 40gr are only a few .01bc apart. I loaded them in my bc program An with both moving at 3600 there's only 3" diff at 500yds.

.204 at 500yds is 43.6 low with 256ftlb
.223 at 500yds is 46.7 low with 222ftlb

so to me they are pretty damn close real mv makes a diff I haven't seen a .204 push a 40 at 3900 though a crono or a 32gr at 4200. An yes I had one for half a year. :p

Yes they are very similar.  I think I like the .223 because it should leave a bigger hole.  However doping the wind should be easier with the .204, as it has higher sectional density.  Meh, RRA only makes ARs in .223 so I went with that.  I would want one in 22-250 or 220 swift if I could get it!

Bigger hole? I like the 204 cause it leaves a smaller hole. Nothing worse than a blown up cat/yote for the fur buyer (not that there is a big dollar thses days but hey every little bit helps). If you want bigger holes quit messing around and shoot a 300 win mag and really put the hurt on them. 

And I disagree that that 204 and 223 are similar. All the charts I read show the 204 with more energy than 223 and pretty significant less drop. Thats how I read it anyway. 

They all get the job done though. I like 22-250, 223, 243 and 204(thats why I have them all). All for different reasons.

[demontang]

Lol yeah all the charts Ive seen have the 204 pushing the bullet faster then Ive seen one tested on a crono. I know a lot of people love them but there just not practical to me. I had one for a while and it realy never left my safe it didnt do anything my 223 couldnt

A 22-250 or 220 swift would have to be on the ar10 frame the coal is just a hair to long for the mag on a ar15

[Big10gauge]

Oh jeez, Another pissing match over calibers.  Oh well, it's just a friendly debate  

I've got a 40 gr .204 shooting at 3874 fps. with a low Standard Dev out of a 24 in barrel with H335 at 80 degrees. Yes slightly over recommended max load, Slight cratering of primer. And could do better if I throttled the gas port down more and changed to a leaf spring(stiffer) rather than the coil or played with more types of powders. Why would you want to shoot a .204 at 3600 fps at the same velocity as a .223 anyway? IMHO

As for guns never leaving the safe I've got 3 .223's in there that don't know what daylight is, and I've killed quite a few with them.  

The .223 has killed a ton of coyotes no doubt about it and will continue to do so no matter what bullet is used. In my experience the .204 fits my style of hunting better which is shooting the longer ranges on called in coyotes, less wind drift, lead etc. May not be for someone else but it's what I like to do. This year I'm playing with a .243 which so far spanks both of them and my be my new favorite, but I do prefer the AR platform so I'm in the process of building a .20 practical with a 26/27 in barrel, 4100 fps here I come!!!.  

My last

Sorry Shaneman, Didn't mean to jack your thread

[Dirty Mike]

40 is plenty might not buck the wind that well

[demontang]

Lol figured Id get you going

[shaneman153D]

Sorry Shaneman, Didn't mean to jack your thread

No problem brotha!

BTW, while the thread is jacked, do you own this upper?

http://www.model1sales.com/item-detail.cfm?ID=UV24204R&storeid=1&image=uvarm24204ru.gif&CFID=57793056&CFTOKEN=52874182

I saw that you posted that linky on another thread.  I've been wondering what kind of quality/accuracy it has.

[Red Dawg]

no problem. A 40 gr v-max out of the hornet kills them dead on the spot. Unless you blow there leg off. The can still run preatty fast on 3 legs.