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Re: HEADS UP IF YOU ARE BUYING A GUN OUT OF STATE!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2010, 08:46:44 PM »
I just bought off of GB from a shop in Idaho, 3 weeks ago.  I paid my local FFL $25 for his fee, plus $2 in tax on his FEE.  I wasn't charged a DIME in tax for the actual rifle sale.  The RCW that is quoted only covers items bought from an out of state business, that also maintains an in-state store also, such as Cabelas.  If you buy something from Joes gun shack in nuckenfutz, Wyoming, and they dont have a store in Washington, no sales tax.  If you order over the web from Cabelas in Nebraska, because they have a store in Lacey, they have to charge state sales tax for the state you are in.  Absolutely nothing new.  No reason to panic people.

From my dealings on this subject, the post above is correct.

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Re: HEADS UP IF YOU ARE BUYING A GUN OUT OF STATE!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2010, 09:00:19 PM »
the law is not specific to dealers or private. the law just refers to transfers. the dealer that I use is a friend of mine and would not hesitate to do it for me, but as he said to me....I can do it. but the law says I have to charge tax. I think he is dotting his "i"'s and crossing his "t"'s. I will try a couple others and if I hear that they too have the same story....well idaho is only 5 miles away.

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Re: HEADS UP IF YOU ARE BUYING A GUN OUT OF STATE!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2010, 09:19:20 PM »
i ran a pawnshop for 61/2 yrs.and transfered thousands of guns and never collected taxes. how do i know how much the buyer paid for the gun, he is not required to give me a copy of the invoice. if you asked me how much i paid for a gun sent to you, i would say it was a gift.

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Re: HEADS UP IF YOU ARE BUYING A GUN OUT OF STATE!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2010, 07:58:05 AM »
I just bought off of GB from a shop in Idaho, 3 weeks ago.  I paid my local FFL $25 for his fee, plus $2 in tax on his FEE.  I wasn't charged a DIME in tax for the actual rifle sale.  The RCW that is quoted only covers items bought from an out of state business, that also maintains an in-state store also, such as Cabelas.  If you buy something from Joes gun shack in nuckenfutz, Wyoming, and they dont have a store in Washington, no sales tax.  If you order over the web from Cabelas in Nebraska, because they have a store in Lacey, they have to charge state sales tax for the state you are in.  Absolutely nothing new.  No reason to panic people.

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Re: HEADS UP IF YOU ARE BUYING A GUN OUT OF STATE!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2010, 11:32:33 AM »
I just called a gun shop in this neighborhood and they told me they know for a fact that this law is in the works but they have not recieved anything official at this point saying that it's in effect.
they have no forms for anyone to fill out, no way to record the tax, etc.
but they know that they will at some point soon regardless of whether or not the place you bought the gun from has a store in WA.

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Re: HEADS UP IF YOU ARE BUYING A GUN OUT OF STATE!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2010, 11:39:19 AM »
I can see more road trips in my future..no way in hell im paying 10% on my gun purchases from outside of washington.  Just wont happen.
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Re: HEADS UP IF YOU ARE BUYING A GUN OUT OF STATE!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2010, 12:02:26 PM »
If it does go into effect, then the FFL's will most likely have to raise their transfer fee's to cover the added paperwork.  So you'll be paying tax and a higher fee.

I'm a little confused though.  There was an RCW that was quoted......doesn't that mean that it is currently a law? ???
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Re: HEADS UP IF YOU ARE BUYING A GUN OUT OF STATE!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2010, 12:16:52 PM »
I'm a little confused though.  There was an RCW that was quoted......doesn't that mean that it is currently a law? ???

if you're asking me I have no clue...this is pert near word for word what the guy told me. I've transferred a few rifles through there in the past so i know them. figure it was a good guy to ask.
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Re: HEADS UP IF YOU ARE BUYING A GUN OUT OF STATE!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2010, 01:29:49 PM »
The transfer fee has been in place for many years if you are talking the sales tax thing it is new  due to internet sales  it used to be you paid sales tax  where you made the purchase, now the tax is where the purchaser lives. If you live in Yelm and buy in Portland, you will pays the sales tax as if it is sold in Yelm.
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Re: HEADS UP IF YOU ARE BUYING A GUN OUT OF STATE!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2010, 01:39:40 PM »
so what happens if it's a private sale?
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Re: HEADS UP IF YOU ARE BUYING A GUN OUT OF STATE!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2010, 04:53:43 PM »
so what happens if it's a private sale?


same as a dealer.
 I talked to a bunch of ffl guys in spokane today. apparently they all got scared into charging the tax per the law. one told me to have it shipped from a private party and to get a reciept for $200.00 another told me to go to idaho and not hand our blood hungry state the $$$. if you can get transfers w/o the tax, consider yourself lucky, but do not be amazed if you get audited and are asked to pay the tax later.....it sux.

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Re: HEADS UP IF YOU ARE BUYING A GUN OUT OF STATE!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2010, 05:01:03 PM »
That's total crap..... If anyone knows of a good FFL in Portland Im all ears....
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Re: HEADS UP IF YOU ARE BUYING A GUN OUT OF STATE!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2010, 05:33:43 PM »
I've got like 15 guns to get sent here to me from my dad in NY...i'm in for gas, Sux.
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Re: HEADS UP IF YOU ARE BUYING A GUN OUT OF STATE!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2010, 05:35:31 PM »
how can WA charge sales tax on a process that is a federal requirement? if it weren't for the federal laws governing this stuff it wouldn't even apply at all. is this a dumb question?
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Re: HEADS UP IF YOU ARE BUYING A GUN OUT OF STATE!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2010, 05:42:52 PM »
I think its garbage...the Internet played no role in my transaction. I called the shop asked if he had what I wanted and paid over the phone...done deal. No different than if I had been standing there.

It might violate the commerce clause of the constitution but I dont know for sure...

I bet we can get cheep FFL transfer in Whoregon.
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