email reply to my email re: the 8 different choices thread...

[JBar]

This is the e-mail that I used
director@dfw.wa.gov
 

Sent! Thanks Bone!

[bobcat]

I don't think that's the email they want us using. Just from memory, I believe it is wildthing@dfw.wa.gov.

I'll look around and see if I can verify that.

[boneaddict]

I used the director email and got a response from the wildthing e-mail.

Same as Jacks

Thank you for your email to Director Anderson regarding the proposal for special hunting permit categories.  The objectives of the proposal are to try to improve the odds of drawing; allow more choices for hunters in permit applications; and generate funding to expand our hunter access program.  It is difficult to make big improvements in the odds of drawing, but we think this proposal will help because there should be less overall competition with separate drawing categories.  If this doesn’t result in a significant change in some categories, we can look at other ideas in the future.  This recommendation will be significant for the other two objectives and after considering the pros and cons of the changes, we think that most hunters will support the recommended change. 

 

On a national basis, the most significant thing that fish and wildlife agencies can do to recruit and retain hunters is improve access opportunities.  In Washington, we have been working with hunters and conservation organizations to expand our access program for several years, this proposal will help us achieve that goal.

 

Dividing up the  hunt choices among categories is challenging and will likely be highly debated by the public.  The greatest challenge was the quality category and we generally considered:  low density of other hunters, relatively high harvest success rates, season timing close to the rut or after migration, and how many hunters put in for the hunt in the past.  The proposals will be available for comment early next month and we strongly encourage folks to submit their thoughts at that time.

 

If you would like to discuss the proposal a little more, please give me your phone number and I will give you a call.

 

Sincerely,

 

Dave Ware, Game Division Manager

[JBar]

I just got my response back from the WDFW and it appears that they are using a form letter to reply back to those who e-mail. So to me that's an F you we're doing it anyway!

[WDFW-SUX]

   Thats why I call...I know they have to listen to me bitch for a few minutes... I doubt they are even reading the email.

[jackelope]

thats how they always are.

you can reply to it with a question and get a real answer from a real person.

[boneaddict]

I plan on calling.   Don't give up everyone.  They'll soon get the idea.  I jsut sent a mass emailing to all members to please vote in that poll.

[JBar]

Hell Bone! Give him you phone number! My response didn't give me that option, you must have articulated better than me. Maybe I should have told him how much I spent on my famlies licenses last year.

I would have called SUX but I really didn't want to waste my breath on someone who just answers the phone.

[WDFW-SUX]

That why you have to be sneaky...Ask a technical question that the phone person doesn't have the answers too..they escalate the call then you've got em...

[huntnphool]

  If a lot of people buy multiple applications the dept will see it as a success.

I agree Lowedog, the real question though is, will the hunters?

[bobcat]

If hunters are spending money on it, one could only assume that hunters DO see it as a success. Otherwise they wouldn't be spending money on it. That's the way I am sure the WDFW will see it anyway. I guess for those of us that don't like it, show your lack of support by not spending your money on applications...

Can we count on you, phool, to stay out of the draw this year?

[Shootmoore]

Probably not the best way to describe my feelings on this, but I do feel better.  My message to wdfw on this issue.

"In the immortal words of General Anthony Clement McAuliffe in the official response to the German demand for surrender during the battle of Bastogne.....NUTS!.  While not eloquent, it sums up my feelings quite well at this new drawing scam(sic) put forth by the WDFW to generate additional revenue from hunters to pay for not game management.  Eventually you know you can not draw blood from a turnip."

Shootmoore

[bobcat]

From the WDFW form letter that boneaddict and others have received, it's obvious they already know, or at least have an idea, that nothing in this proposal will increase draw odds. First they state the three objectives:

The objectives of the proposal are to try to improve the odds of drawing; allow more choices for hunters in permit applications; and generate funding to expand our hunter access program.

Then they say:

It is difficult to make big improvements in the odds of drawing..........If this doesn’t result in a significant change in some categories, we can look at other ideas in the future.  This recommendation will be significant for the other two objectives

So they already know the odds of drawing, in general won't be improved. However, they are saying the proposal WILL generate more money for the WDFW, and will allow hunters more choices.

Can't really argue with that. I can't really fault them. They're doing what hunters have asked for. The best way to make draw odds better would be to simply increase the cost of each application, and maybe have a waiting period for successful applicants. But that's not what hunters asked for.

[WDFW-SUX]

Sometime the people that are responsible for the wildlife in this state should try acting like adults and not bowing to the whims of the uniformed masses. Do whats right not popular.

[Lowedog]

  If a lot of people buy multiple applications the dept will see it as a success.

I agree Lowedog, the real question though is, will the hunters?

If hunters are spending money on it, one could only assume that hunters DO see it as a success. Otherwise they wouldn't be spending money on it. That's the way I am sure the WDFW will see it anyway. I guess for those of us that don't like it, show your lack of support by not spending your money on applications...

Can we count on you, phool, to stay out of the draw this year?

That is the real question...if you don't like it yet support it by buying multiple apps then it can only be seen as a success from the WDFW's standpoint. 

I was thinking about this thread and wondered how serious they are going to take the emails from H-W members especially if it has a link to a "blog" where WDFW is being bashed. 

Bone, did the mass email not work?  I never received a copy.