email reply to my email re: the 8 different choices thread...

[huntnphool]

That is the real question...if you don't like it yet support it by buying multiple apps then it can only be seen as a success from the WDFW's standpoint

True, however just because people pay for it doesn't mean they think its okay. Just like fuel, people are paying double what they did not so long ago, the oil companies may see it as a success because its still selling, but the poeple are definately not happy about it.

[Curly]

The best way to make draw odds better would be to simply increase the cost of each application, and maybe have a waiting period for successful applicants. But that's not what hunters asked for.

Those are good ways of increasing draw odds.......but the best way would be to increase the deer/elk populations so that there would be more animals to offer tags for.  One way to do that would be to fix the predator problems in this State.

They should open Cougar season year around, allow dogs for coyote hunters, open more spring bear seasons, and kill the wolves.  That would provide more opportunity for harvest of game, thus increasing hunter numbers and thus increasing license, tag and permit sales.  Problem solved.  No need to change the draw sytem.....

[huntnphool]

 

[Lowedog]

That is the real question...if you don't like it yet support it by buying multiple apps then it can only be seen as a success from the WDFW's standpoint

True, however just because people pay for it doesn't mean they think its okay. Just like fuel, people are paying double what they did not so long ago, the oil companies may see it as a success because its still selling, but the poeple are definately not happy about it.

I can see your point but fuel is a necessity and special hunt apps are not.  If they go ahead with it which I think is safe to say they will you can support it by doing exactly what they want you to or you could just put in for quality hunts like you probably usually do and have a stronger stance on getting them to do something differently in 2011. 

[huntnphool]

Fuel, like the late hunt, is not a necessity its a convenience. You don't need to buy fuel, you can walk or ride a bike. I don't need to hunt the late season, I can hunt the general or not at all.

[Curly]

Even if everyone on this board did not apply this year out of protest, WDFW would still make more money on the new draw system with all the new categories.  I don't see how we'd get enough hunters to sit out of the draw to make them rethink anything.

[Lowedog]

Fuel, like the late hunt, is not a necessity its a convenience. You don't need to buy fuel, you can walk or ride a bike. I don't need to hunt the late season, I can hunt the general or not at all.

Give me a break!  That is a ridiculous comparison.  You need to come up with something better than fuel to compare it to.   To me fuel is a necessity, I have to buy it to make a living just like a lot of folks. 



 

[wrangler]

It is still a proposal, but as I said, I think it will be pretty popular.  We have been discussing this concept with the public since July of 2008 (through web surveys and public meetings).  It was one of the proposals for the 2009-11 Hunting Season Package, but with the changes it would require to our computerized drawing system, there wasn’t time to consider it last year.   Hunters were pretty excited about it during the public meetings and we have worked the proposal pretty extensively with our Game Management Advisory Council.  This is a group of citizens who provide the department council on game management issues.  After listening to their issues and ideas, we developed the proposal that will be available for comment in February.  

ummmm ok. so who exactly is the 'public'? we have how many thousands of members on this board? some of which seem to be pretty intune and up to date on the wdfw and attend meetings and public hearings.... they been discussing this with the public since uh 2008? wtf? and we all just heard word one about it 2 weeks ago? ooooooooookkkkkk.

ps. sorry if this has been talked about on the board for the last couple years and im just now hearing about it... although id like to think the rock i live under isn't that big!

 

[bobcat]

They did tell us there would be some big changes in the system sometime last summer I think it was, but they didn't say what the changes would be. I think we've all been assuming that they were going to reduce the number of choices on each application from 4, to 2 or 1.

[yelp]

They did tell us there would be some big changes in the system sometime last summer I think it was, but they didn't say what the changes would be. I think we've all been assuming that they were going to reduce the number of choices on each application from 4, to 2 or 1.

IMO -I think in the quality hunt (bull and buck rut hunts) category 1-2 choices should be allowed and up to four in the others (for deer and elk).

[heavy hauler]

i will wait until i see the plan before i endlessly complain with you fellas. i dont see how they can make everyone happy when some people would love to shoot does ,cows or spikes.those have zero appeal to me  and  you can see that by where i apply for.

[billythekidrock]

Yelp - the "Quality" category will only allow two choices. All other categories will offer 4.

[bobcat]

Yelp - the "Quality" category will only allow two choices. All other categories will offer 4.

Where did that information come from

[billythekidrock]

Yelp - the "Quality" category will only allow two choices. All other categories will offer 4.

Where did that information come from

Trust me. Have you ever known me to just throw crap out there?

[shanevg]

Did anyone see this on the WDFW website?

How does the Department propose to change the current system?

To address these issues, WDFW proposes to require separate applications for specific categories of deer, elk, bighorn sheep, moose, and cougar permits. Separate drawings will be conducted in each category. Specifically, hunters may purchase and submit separate applications for a variety of categories, to include:

    * Buck or bull permits
    * Antlerless permits
    * Second tag permits
    * Quality hunt permits
    * Youth hunt permits
    * Senior hunt permits
    * Disabled hunter permits
    * Master Hunter permits

I guess I was under the impression that this only included deer and elk.  I guess the odds for those cow moose tags just plummeted too didn't they! 

https://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov/wdfw/special_permits.html