Multi Season Permit

[MtnMuley]

As far as the WDFW not being perfect, I cannot think of a truer statement! Up until recently I was always one of their biggest supporters. But now, seeing how they lied about the new proposed permit system "having broad public suport" when they never even gave us a chance to provide feedback, I have to say I really don't trust them anymore. And I tend to go along with others who have been saying all along that all the WDFW cares about is the money.

 

[funkster]

We all complain about how the wdfw wants are money,how are they supposed to manage fish and wildlife and everything that goes along with that without money?  I don't agree with everything the wdfw does but I feel the reason they do it is directly linked to them being under funded. If people loved hunting as much as they say they do,paying for SPECIAL PERMITS should not be an issue. We all complain about paying taxes but we sure love driving on the roads taxes create.

[bobcat]

I don't have a problem with them bringing in enough revenue to keep the department running either. I just don't like when they lie about it.

[MtnMuley]

We all complain about how the wdfw wants are money,how are they supposed to manage fish and wildlife and everything that goes along with that without money?  I don't agree with everything the wdfw does but I feel the reason they do it is directly linked to them being under funded. If people loved hunting as much as they say they do,paying for SPECIAL PERMITS should not be an issue. We all complain about paying taxes but we sure love driving on the roads taxes create.

Mismanaged, not underfunded.  Don't get me (an eastside tax payer) and tax generated roads going.

[funkster]

You manage 800,000 + acres and try to make everybody happy without funding. Do some research and see how much funding the WDFW lost last year and then tell me they are NOT underfunded. Like I said, I don't agree with everything they do,but they are trying(more than most of us do) and you can't knock that.

[bobcat]

Last year I would have been saying the exact same thing as you. But not anymore. I went to the meeting a couple weeks ago and listened to them get up there and lie. If they're not lying, and truly believe what they're saying, then they're just downright stupid. Do you think they got "broad public input" for the changes to the permit system this year? (We only found out about it in February.)

The changes according to them were meant to do a couple of things.... increase odds of drawing a permit, and increase revenue to the WDFW. Well the second goal they're going to see come true, the first, we'll see the opposite. Worse odds of drawing a permit.

Why didn't they simply increase the cost of an application, from say $5 to $15? It would have brought in extra revenue, and the system could have stayed the same. (it worked just fine the way it was)

[funkster]

Why didn't they simply increase the cost of an application, from say $5 to $15? It would have brought in extra revenue, and the system could have stayed the same. (it worked just fine the way it was)

How much backlash would the department have gotten if they raised the application fee $10??? I suggested that one time and they told me "hunting has to be fair for all not just those with money". I agree with most of the stuff your saying so don't get me wrong.

[KimberRich]

So the deadline is the 31st... With Drawing first week of April.. Any guesses to when the results will be be posted? 

[duckmen1]

just remember if you get drawn its an aditional 165 dollars on top of your original license

[bobcat]

I thought it was $180 this year.   

[funkster]

I thought it was $180 this year.   

That is what I read too!

[KimberRich]

It is $180. 

[Bob33]

How much backlash would the department have gotten if they raised the application fee $10???

I think far less than they will with these changes.  After all, many if not most applicants will be paying more than $10 starting this year.  If you want to apply for a bull and a cow permit, two application fees.  Quality bull, regular bull, and cow: three application fees. 

If the department had (a) explained the need to increase revenues, (b) asked hunters for input, (c) explained the rationale for making the decisions they did, I believe that most hunters would accept the changes.  Every hunter I know, and that's probably 20 or more, would prefer to see an application fee increase rather than the eight pool approach.

[grundy53]

its really weird... they haven't even drawn yet and it says "not selected" instead of "draw not run yet". its making me nervous. lol. bad omen or error?

[jackelope]

Neither. it's the backdoor method, it's not official at all. pay no attention to it right now...you haven't even reached the deadline yet.