We were in montana and had been passing up lots of bucks and I kept telling my boy the old saying you can;t shoot the little ones if you want a big one. That story was starting not to work he was ready when we spotted fresh tracks and started following them and this buck stood up right in front of us. He shot and away it went and I could;nt tell where he hit it but with fresh snow it made it easy to track and it only went about 50 yards. The body was really big and the horns measured a little over 30 inches. It was really fun being able to take my boy to montana and to be able to see so many nice bucks and actually turn down nice 4 points in order to get a trophy.