Speed Goats in Washington

[gasman]

Right.  Bison, like cattle can be hunted as far as WDFW is concerned.  The owners may have a problem with it. 

So, the cattle left in the National Forest are legal to hunt if they are not removed when they are supose to be?

[canyelk48]

Right.  Bison, like cattle can be hunted as far as WDFW is concerned.  The owners may have a problem with it. 

So, the cattle left in the National Forest are legal to hunt if they are not removed when they are supose to be?

Hmmm, interesting thought; wonder how that would pan out if I arrowed a T-bone steak, lol.

[Bob33]

Right.  Bison, like cattle can be hunted as far as WDFW is concerned.  The owners may have a problem with it. 

So, the cattle left in the National Forest are legal to hunt if they are not removed when they are supose to be?

Legal in what sense?  There is no game law against it.  There is no game law against shooting a dog, either: same concept.

[Shootmoore]

Right.  Bison, like cattle can be hunted as far as WDFW is concerned.  The owners may have a problem with it. 

So, the cattle left in the National Forest are legal to hunt if they are not removed when they are supose to be?

Legal in what sense?  There is no game law against it.  There is no game law against shooting a dog, either: same concept.

It would fall under Theft of Livestock.

RCW 9A.56.083
Theft of livestock in the second degree. 

(1) A person who commits what would otherwise be theft of livestock in the first degree but without intent to sell or exchange, and for the person's own use only, is guilty of theft of livestock in the second degree.

     (2) Theft of livestock in the second degree is a class C felony.


It was a capital offense punishible by hanging to steal a horse in Washington State up till the early 1970's when the law was re-written.  A class C felony is punishible up to 10 years in prison.

Shootmoore

[gasman]

How long would a cow left behind by th erancher have to be abandonded to not be considered live stock.

I have ran across cows in the NF in the late archery season (Dec).

If they are required to have the cattle out of teh NF and do not, would that be considered abondonment? Especially when they are required to have them out by early Oct.

Dont mean to thread jack just curious about this. I could have filled my freezer a few times with the amount of cattle i have seen left behind 

[carpsniperg2]

i am not going to get into this one as well been in to many back and forwards topics but i have heard that some indian reservations have the right to shoot the cattle that get in there if they are not out by a certain time frame. we have always run on our own pasture so i do not know first hand but they are supposed to be able to shoot them but who know just thought i would throw that in the mix i don't know one way or another

[Hangfire]

In 1974 I saw the head of a pronhorn in the freezer at the former Yakima Trout Hatchery, by the Yakima airport.  As I was told by a hatchery employee, it was seized by a wildlife agent, from a deer hunter, who thought he had shot a 2 point deer.  The wildlife agents used to keep seized evidence in fish hatchery freezers. It was probably a 10 inch buck.

I read some where in the past 5 years, there is supposed to be a very small group of pronghorn in the soap lake area.I was told or read, that there was a plan to put pronghorn in the Moses Lk. area, years ago, the irrigation project ruined that.

Two weeks ago while traveling through the Columbia gorge on the Oregon side,  on high way 84. I told my wife that most of our relatives and friends that regularly travel that road, have at one time or another seen a pronghorn. We have traveled it a lot since 1976 and never seen one. Within 30 seconds she said theres one.  It was about 250 yards from the road, between mile marker 144 and 145.  She took a picture of it, which I don't know how to load on here. It appeared to be a 10-12 inch buck, decent prongs and heavy from the prong down.

[colockumelk]

There was a fairly good number of them on the YTC back in the 50's. They were wipped out by the military.

The Central Washington chapter of SCI spearheaded a reintrodution into the state 2 years ago. WDFW was on board at first. After they backed out SCI went to the Yakama tribe and they were all for it.
There would already be 100 pronghorn on the ground but the lack of weather hampered the capturing of them. They are coming from an area outside of Winnimucca NV. They needed more snow than they had for a safe capture. Then it got too late into the winter and they were worried about fawn survival. They will try again this winter.

Is the SCI that stupid.  Within two years they will all have been shot.  That tribe isn't really known for its proper game managment.  Not trying to point fingers but that would be like replanting some Marijuana plants in the back yard of a Frat House.  It's be smoked as fast as you could plant them.

[Pathfinder101]

There was a fairly good number of them on the YTC back in the 50's. They were wipped out by the military.

The Central Washington chapter of SCI spearheaded a reintrodution into the state 2 years ago. WDFW was on board at first. After they backed out SCI went to the Yakama tribe and they were all for it.
There would already be 100 pronghorn on the ground but the lack of weather hampered the capturing of them. They are coming from an area outside of Winnimucca NV. They needed more snow than they had for a safe capture. Then it got too late into the winter and they were worried about fawn survival. They will try again this winter.

Is the SCI that stupid.  Within two years they will all have been shot.  That tribe isn't really known for its proper game managment.  Not trying to point fingers but that would be like replanting some Marijuana plants in the back yard of a Frat House.  It's be smoked as fast as you could plant them.

good point Colockum

Actually, I think YTC would be the ideal place for them.  You could control access and poaching a lot easier than anyplace else, and you wouldn't have to worry about the ranchers and farmers pitching a fit (at least until they overpopulate and spill out of the training area...

[colockumelk]

I agree pathfinder YTC would be the perfect place for antelope for. He reasons you just listed. Oh well! SCI will learn the hard way: )