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Wolf Discussion on WDFW Facebook Page
« on: July 20, 2010, 08:12:09 PM »
This is turning into a pretty interesting discussion. The antis have entered the discussion with all the pridictable disney tales...  :chuckle:

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=14016&post=90265&uid=385127436760#topic_top
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Re: Wolf Discussion on WDFW Facebook Page
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2010, 09:43:51 PM »
I don't know how you guys do it....

My head gets sore from all the  :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:
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Re: Wolf Discussion on WDFW Facebook Page
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2010, 11:59:09 PM »
I hear what you are saying gringo, but all I have to do is remind myself that our deer and elk herds depend on our ability to get some common sense into the wolf discussion.
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Re: Wolf Discussion on WDFW Facebook Page
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2010, 10:49:20 AM »
The WDFW facebook discussion about wolves is now 5 pages:

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=14016&post=90376&uid=385127436760#post90376
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Re: Wolf Discussion on WDFW Facebook Page
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2010, 11:57:48 AM »
check out the discussion:  http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=385127436760&topic=14016
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Here's the real target, they want wolves thorughout the country, at a time when people are struggling to make a living they want 10's of thousands of wolves. Please read...

http://www.rr.com/news/topic/article/rr/9000/16613478/Petition_seeks_to_have_wolves_howl_across_US/full

It's obvious they do not agree with the Washington wolf plan, just read the comments in this discussion, as soon as the state tries to delist, they will sue Washington just like they sue everywhere else.

The deal was 100 wolves in each state of Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming, now look at those states with 3000 wolves and the wolf worshippers sued to relist them.

The feds had delsited Minnesota and Wisconsin but the wolf worshippers sued and wolves are listed again there too. There are 5000 wolves in the great lakes states and that is not enough for the wolf worshippers. I just returned from a family reuinion in WI/MN and not one person I talked to in 10 days there was happy about the wolves.

The best thing anyone can do is to oppose all wolves period at any point, because once wolves are established the wolf worshippers will sue to stop management and then wolves simply will multiply. I am forced to be opposed to any wolves for this reason.

Those are the facts and the responses here confirm the same story will play out in Washington. Not one wolf worshipper will put a number on how many wolves is enough.

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Re: Wolf Discussion on WDFW Facebook Page
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2010, 12:17:55 PM »
I like the lady from Colorado saying our deer and elk are couch potatoes that don't have any real predators besides us and we're too lazy to be effective at managing their populations  :lol4:
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Re: Wolf Discussion on WDFW Facebook Page
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2010, 12:21:48 PM »
It's kinda fun arguing with these idiots. The sad part is they actually believe what they are saying...
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Re: Wolf Discussion on WDFW Facebook Page
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2010, 01:16:07 PM »
Hmm....I guess they didn't like my bunny joke...  :'(
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Re: Wolf Discussion on WDFW Facebook Page
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2010, 02:27:52 PM »
Hmm....I guess they didn't like my bunny joke...  :'(

I think your right :tung: :chuckle:
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Re: Wolf Discussion on WDFW Facebook Page
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2010, 10:36:57 AM »
You need to check out the facebook page of the last poster.  She is one serious wolf lover.


There is a poster that says "500 dead, get involved" wolf center blah, blah....

Her post-

Jami Wright- Time to get down to business. We have options, especially if your a rocky mountain resident. There is a deep rooted system at work here. We must seek to understand it, and have compassion for those who don't see things the way that we do. We can actually learn from them and create bridges. Plant seeds of compassion for all living things in your... See More communities and seek the lessons that they offer. If anyone is interested in learning more about how they can utilize their strengths within this human issue surrounding wolves, I would be happy to offer suggestions. My masters thesis in anthropology focuses on this exactly. I have a blog at jamiw.wordpress.com if your interested in some Idahoan perspectives and experiences surrounding wolves.


She also has her own wolf loving site   http://jamiw.wordpress.com/
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Re: Wolf Discussion on WDFW Facebook Page
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2010, 11:24:41 AM »
my latest post...  http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=14016&post=90453&uid=385127436760#topic_top

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Linda, the reason the wolves are dying in Yellowstone is pretty simple. The wolves over-populated, ate most of the elk and nearly all the moose, now they are starving and killing each other becuase even the wolves know there is not enough elk.

FYI - Man has the ability to manage animals so over populations do not occur. At any point biologists feel that there are to many elk, deer, or predators, man can adjust hunting seasons to establish better population levels. It has been working for the last 100 years very well.

LOL Why do you think Lewis and Clark almost starved to death crossing the west.... Because there were unmanaged predator numbers. By keeping all wildlife at sustainable levels the predators and man all fit into the modern environment.

This is precisely one of the many reasons wolves need mananged.

Unless you and everyone else on earth plan on moving to the moon, you are not even making any sense with this rant about (before man). LOL
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Re: Wolf Discussion on WDFW Facebook Page
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2010, 11:25:41 AM »
Did you notice the WDFW finally posted?
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Re: Wolf Discussion on WDFW Facebook Page
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2010, 11:31:10 AM »
Yeah, I saw....but they said a whole lot of nothing......Be nice, thanks for using our wolf info from our site, we will keep working on this and listening to you......blah, blah.

I still want to know if they manage wildlife on science or majority rule.
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Re: Wolf Discussion on WDFW Facebook Page
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2010, 11:34:42 AM »
Science that the majority believes in :D   
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Re: Wolf Discussion on WDFW Facebook Page
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2010, 11:59:23 AM »
Yeah, I saw....but they said a whole lot of nothing......Be nice, thanks for using our wolf info from our site, we will keep working on this and listening to you......blah, blah.

I still want to know if they manage wildlife on science or majority rule.

I agree, next time I get on there I will ask the same question....
Todd got results with the chicken talk...LOL

just kidding, I probably won't try that...
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