Gutless method for deer and elk. Anyone know for sure if it's legal?

[boneaddict]

I'll have to try that rib thing for the tenderloins.   I still gut my deer.  It takes me literally less than 5 minutes.  I think I've done gutless on one bull and one moose.   

We've all been there Miles.

[Kent Hunter]

I'm with Bone (Doug) on this one.

[Hunter Dug]

You can also just remover a few ribs if needed to get the tender nuggets. As far as the heart and liver, after removing the front shoulders you can cut a hole in the front of the chest to retrieve these items.  To me if you do not take these items you are wasting.  But your right it is not illegal to leave these items behind. I will buy a twin sized sheet and carry it in my pack, lay it out like a cutting table, and bone out completely keeps every thing clean. Bag it, Hang it, and then go brag about it.  ( get help I mean. )  Unless you can drive you rig to it LEGAL this is the only way to go.

[PA BEN]

All but the liver, witch I forgot to take. 482 lbs of meat.

[Atroxus]

So, if the head isn't attached to the largest portion of meat then the pecker or nuts. Those are the first to go to get them away from the meat.

. Transporting Wildlife:
You must transport any big game animal with
the proper tag attached. The properly validated
tag must remain with the meat until it is eaten
(including cold storage).
If quartered, the tag should remain with the carcass
or largest portion of the carcass. If you need to
take the head to a taxidermist and the meat to
be processed, you can complete a taxidermy
ledger or invoice, providing information outlined
under "Possession and Use of Wildlife" for the
taxidermist, and keep the tag with the meat at the
processor.
The tag should remain attached to the hide of a
bear or cougar until it is tanned.
3. Evidence of Animal's Sex:
It is illegal to possess or transport big game
animals unless evidence of the animal's sex is left
naturally attached to the carcass until the carcass
is processed or stored for consumption. Evidence
of sex means:
Male - head with antlers or horns attached or
penis or testes naturally attached to at least
one quarter of the carcass or to the largest
portion of meat.
Female - the head or udder must be
naturally attached to at least one quarter of
the carcass or to the largest portion of meat.
Big game taken in antler or horn restriction areas:
The head or skull plate, with both horns or both
antlers naturally attached, must accompany the
carcass while in transit or in possession.
The feathered heads of game birds must be
attached to the carcass when they are in your
possession in the field or are being transported.

I am curious how you bone out the hindquarters and still leave proof of sex attached? I just can't seem to wrap my head around that, could just be that I have never field dressed yet. It seems to me from the videos I have seen on field dressing that the best bet would be to bone everything out up to the front shoulders then leave one front shoulder/cape/neck/head as one unit so the head would then be attached to the one intact quarter. Course this is just speculation from a newby who has only seen pictures and videos so far. Anyone know of a video that shows an animal being boned out in the field? I have seen the pictorial on this site, but several of the pictures either don't load for me or are so close in that I am not sure what I am looking at since I don't have any prior experience hands on.

[PA BEN]

Just skin one hind leg all the way and leave the nut sack w/a patch of hide on the other leg.
There's a thread w/a video on this gutless method.

[ridgefire]

not sure what video is being watched but the elk we have done im pretty sure the scavengers were pretty dissapointed when they found the kills after we got done with the gutless method. elk burger is to good to be leaving any behind besides the little bit that has to much blood in it to be good.

[Atroxus]

Just skin one hind leg all the way and leave the nut sack w/a patch of hide on the other leg.
There's a thread w/a video on this gutless method.

Cool, I did a search and found the video you mentioned. It is awesome. Thanks. 

[Axle]

I don't like the method for the accute lack thereof of tenderloins/tender nuggets.

Some wouldn't strip the rib meat like they should.

OK Bone, look at my deer in this tutorial and tell me you can see tenderloins at the end and I will give you all the tenderloins I get from now on. And the rib meat is a piece of cake too but some won't take it regardless.

[Axle]

Oops, sorry, forgot to post the link.

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,37569.0.html

[Axle]

Wouldn't leaving the heart and liver be considered wasteage?

Heart and liver are easily accessible.

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,37569.0.html

Look at the pictures. I always take the heart. Only the liver if I find somebody that will eat it.

[Axle]

You can reach in between the ribs and remove the tenderloins.

The tenderloins are not behind ribs. They are farther back. Once the hind leg and back straps are off, the tenderloins are easily accessible.

[Axle]

I just watched that video and in my opinion there is to much meat left behind.

That video posted on this forum is lousy. It shows nothing at all except a front and hind leg being taken off. My granddaughter could probably do that without explanation but everyone who looked at it went nuts over it (except me). There is nothing on it that is much good as far as instruction.

Remember folks, the gutless method isn't new. It is real easy and the only way I have been doing it for over 20 years. Even if you guess, I'm sure you can figure it out in the field.

[PA BEN]

There is three videos, they show the whole job. BTW, I hope you boned out that deer for the video, front yard bucks are for gutting and hanging and cutting up later.

[Axle]

There is three videos, they show the whole job.

I didn't see the other two. Didn't mean to rip anyone who did a good job. I thought the first one was it. Guess I'd better go find the other two.