Wolf Verification - Help Needed

[Lowedog]

I'm working with members of the WA State House Republicans to make sure there is full disclosure by WDFW.  I am currently reviewing about 7,200 pages of documents from WDFW.  There was a post here showing a picture from a trail cam, identified as being around White Pass.  WDFW email disputed that claim and said it was from the Lookout Pack.  That's what led me here ... I'd like to produce proof of other wolves in areas not identified by WDFW.

Good deal!  I hope you can find what you are after.

That trail cam pic that was alleged as coming from White Pass turned out to be some kid that "borrowed" the pic from another member and was indeed from the area of the Lookout pack.  I think that was Mulehunter's pic and the kid was trying to stir things up. 

[Special T]

Unfortunatly pics dont cut it... Must have DNA from hair in the poop... then again poop don't prove a breeding pair... kinda like hunting bigfoot....

[bearpaw]

Good luck I will help in any way I can.

[Happy Gilmore]

As hunters with modern photography equipment some verification should be able to be made at some point through our legal hunting seasons. 

[Tony 270]

WDFW says there are only three packs in WA, right? If there are only three and you know the general area of where they are supposed to be then everything you see outside of that must be a coyote. And since it's only a coyote, shoot it on site.

[DoubleJ]

WDFW says there are only three packs in WA, right? If there are only three and you know the general area of where they are supposed to be then everything you see outside of that must be a coyote. And since it's only a coyote, shoot it on site.

This is the post of the year IMO.

[Rudy]

I dunno DoubleJ.......princess made a good one the other day...leather, whips, that kinda stuff 

[DoubleJ]

I dunno DoubleJ.......princess made a good one the other day...leather, whips, that kinda stuff 

Oh, I missed that one.

[runamuk]

I dunno DoubleJ.......princess made a good one the other day...leather, whips, that kinda stuff 

Oh, I missed that one.

was in regards to gun safes not wolves

I would like to see more photo and video evidence of the wolves here.....someone posted pics on here from the skagit with what by all appearances were wolves they might have been hybrid dumps as well there were some breeders up that way for many years but no matter how they get into the wild the fact is they are getting there and need to be documented and managed.

[DOUBLELUNG]

WDFW and USFS field bios believed there were likely wolves in the Sawtooths (between Lake Chelan and the Methow) as early as 2003.  However, a resident pack (defined as a breeding pair with at least two pups surviving to December 31) is a very high standard of evidence.  That confirmation did not occur for years.

I have no concerns with WDFW denying known occurrences of wolves.  My concern is they won't devote the resources required to identify and confirm every pack in the state.  I would like the Department to receive direction from the Legislature, the Commission, or both, requiring them to allocate sufficient personnel and resources to adequately investigate all credible reports of wolves, and provide reasonable assurance that all packs are identified and accounted.  Otherwise, the hand-wringing will continue over funding, but they won't voluntarily quit funding all the "nice but not required" stuff they do currently, and first fully fund all mandated programs with existing resources.    

[StacyDave97]

Unit 111 - Aladdin (More specifically, while I was walking on Rocky Creek Rd) in late June this year, came across 2 wolves....gun out, they disappeared and I walked back to our place....looking behind me about every 10 steps....ok maybe 5 or 2  but I wasn't walking backwards!!   That was a little too close for comfort, pissed me off when my hubby asked "you sure they weren't dogs or coyotes??"  "Nope, they were wolves and now you're getting your butt outta bed tomorrow at 6 am to walk with me, just for that!!" 

Good luck with your research.  Sorry, no pictures just my word

[Happy Gilmore]

My best friends' father in law was a high country horseman from Ronald for a very long time(grew up there) He says he found a carcass of a wolf near Cathedral Rock in the late 1970's. Said he called F&W, they sent over a biologist from UW. They came, put the carcass in a plastic trash bag and he never heard a word about it again. (he told me this story first hand)

He said he's seen suspicious animals at great distance in the back country but, couldn't ever be sure of what it is.

[runamuk]

My best friends' father in law was a high country horseman from Ronald for a very long time(grew up there) He says he found a carcass of a wolf near Cathedral Rock in the late 1970's. Said he called F&W, they sent over a biologist from UW. They came, put the carcass in a plastic trash bag and he never heard a word about it again. (he told me this story first hand)

He said he's seen suspicious animals at great distance in the back country but, couldn't ever be sure of what it is.

theres been NATIVE wolves in that area since 1998 to my knowledge it was kept quiet they were one of the few known packs of wolves that existed that hadn't been planted....all of this was off the record

[bearpaw]

In about 1992 I sat in a WDFW Commission meeting and listened to the WDFW testify to the commission that we had wolves in the Pasayten and they wanted to close coyote hunting to prevent accidental wolf shootings.

THEY KNEW THEY WERE HERE IN WASHINGTON THEN!

[wsucowboy]

i know there is a thread with a wolf pic in columbia county  i have heard rumors about them around here close, but have not seen "proof"

Thats right I do remember that.  Seems like it was black and a pretty decent photo.  I think that WDFW has acknowledged wolves in the SE of WA but has not said they have a breeding pair which is their criteria for a pack if I'm not mistaken. 

are you talking about the black wolf that's in the blues. There was a picture of that one on here and it was a pretty good pic.