Tire Help

[Practical Approach]

I am looking for a set of tires for my chevy 2500 4x4.  I have had the Toyo mt but am wondering what experiences people have had with other mt's and At's.  I love the Toyo';s but they are a bit spendy. 

[ICEMAN]

Try this huge thread on the topic...

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,6285.0.html

[Rick]

I am looking for a set of tires for my chevy 2500 4x4.  I have had the Toyo mt but am wondering what experiences people have had with other mt's and At's.  I love the Toyo';s but they are a bit spendy. 

You get what you pay for with the Toyos. IMO,theres nothing out there that compares.

In case you didn't know,you don't have to buy them at Les Schwab. They want you to believe they're exclusive to them but they aren't. Try Discount Tire. They'll have to order them,but can have them in 2-3 days. I called Discount about a month ago for a set of Toyos. They were 30% less than at Les Schwab.

[whacker1]

And a more recent thread.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,50689.30.html

I am in the process of ordering new tires.  I was really pleased with the Pro Comp Mud Terrain, and have 41,000 miles on them.  I would like to try the Pro Comp Xtreme Mud terrain, but price might put them out of practical justification.  

I will likely know what I am selecting by Monday or Tuesday.  Mine is a F150, but I only buy 10 ply tires.  I like the Pro Comp X-treme mud terrains, because they are a 3 ply sidewall.  cooper STT's are also a 3 ply sidewall.  There are a few others out there, but I think it makes them hold up a little better. I blew the sidewall on my last set of Dunlop Mud Rover, so I have some added motivation

[tireguru]

If you want the Toyo M/T's they are on sale @ Les Schwab until the end of the month. They are built on a truck tire casing so they are heavyier duty than standard tires. Depending on the size you are running the Maxxis Bighorn is a good value on a traction tire but if you have run the Toyo M/T's it's tough to compare them to something else.

[ICEMAN]

Thanks whacker, I missed that one....seems every year we have a big ol' Toyo tire thread....

[jackelope]

I have the Toyo Open Country All Terrains on my truck and love them. 265/70/17 and about $1100 for the set of them on a 2002 1500 Chev truck.
The Toyo Open Country Mud Terrain tires we see cup real bad on the Dodge 2500/3500 trucks and a lot of guys don't end up liking them. They're not a problem on 1500's and smaller trucks like Toyotas. My bud is at 120k miles and on his 5th set of mud terrains and he won't be going back again to them. Thats the other down side, they wear out too quick for what you pay for them. With the easier riding IFS on the big Chev trucks they might not be as bad. We also see a few guys buying those Nitto Terra Grapplers because they are cheap. The problem is they can't handle the air pressure the big trucks tire pressure monitoring systems require to keep the tire pressure light turned off. They have a 45psi max or something like that and the Dodge 2500/3500 trucks are looking for 60-70psi to keep the light turned off. Those guys are stuck driving around with the tpms warning on all the time. Just a few things to consider....I'm not a tire expert by any stretch, just a few things we see a lot.
 

[jackelope]

If you want the Toyo M/T's they are on sale @ Les Schwab until the end of the month. They are built on a truck tire casing so they are heavyier duty than standard tires. Depending on the size you are running the Maxxis Bighorn is a good value on a traction tire but if you have run the Toyo M/T's it's tough to compare them to something else.

Why do the m/t's cup so bad on the h/d trucks and not on the little trucks? It's not lack of rotation.

[bobcat]

I like Cooper Tires. They're American made and reasonably priced. I got a set last fall for my truck from Discount Tire in Lacey. I went with the Discoverer ATR's and they've been great. Any other comparable tire would have been at least $100 more for a set of 4.

[Elkaholic daWg]

   I run BFG KM2 Mud Terrains and have always had great performance out of any BFG (Mud or All Terrain) on every truck  I've owned. Right on about swab being over priced. At Discount you can get 5 tires (spare) for the price of 4 at Les Schwab.

[Raul Duke]

If you want the Toyo M/T's they are on sale @ Les Schwab until the end of the month. They are built on a truck tire casing so they are heavyier duty than standard tires. Depending on the size you are running the Maxxis Bighorn is a good value on a traction tire but if you have run the Toyo M/T's it's tough to compare them to something else.

Why do the m/t's cup so bad on the h/d trucks and not on the little trucks? It's not lack of rotation.

Lack of rotation. On the bigger rigs its a good idea do do it more offten. Most people go 4-5k miles befor doing a rotation.
If you keep up on them every 3k miles and cross rotate them (& rebalance) every other rotation. They dont cup.

Other recomandations
Mud Terain SXT's 
BFGoodwich  Mud Teraian KW2's 
Maxxix Big Horns.

[Rick]

I have the Toyo Open Country All Terrains on my truck and love them. 265/70/17 and about $1100 for the set of them on a 2002 1500 Chev truck.
The Toyo Open Country Mud Terrain tires we see cup real bad on the Dodge 2500/3500 trucks and a lot of guys don't end up liking them. They're not a problem on 1500's and smaller trucks like Toyotas. My bud is at 120k miles and on his 5th set of mud terrains and he won't be going back again to them. Thats the other down side, they wear out too quick for what you pay for them. With the easier riding IFS on the big Chev trucks they might not be as bad. We also see a few guys buying those Nitto Terra Grapplers because they are cheap. The problem is they can't handle the air pressure the big trucks tire pressure monitoring systems require to keep the tire pressure light turned off. They have a 45psi max or something like that and the Dodge 2500/3500 trucks are looking for 60-70psi to keep the light turned off. Those guys are stuck driving around with the tpms warning on all the time. Just a few things to consider....I'm not a tire expert by any stretch, just a few things we see a lot.
 

I run 34" Toyo M/Ts on my Ram 3500, fall through spring. No cupping or other funny wear. I think the problem is the shiatty front end on the Rams. Guys don't stay on top of the maintanance and as parts wear out they trash the tires. Its not the tires fault,its the lazy owners.

As far as the Nittos go,they're a sister company to Toyo. They share the same technology. They aren't a cheap tire. If the guys you see can't run more than 45 psi in them,they bought the wrong load range tires.  Load Range E Nittos have the same 80 psi rating as any other E rated tire. 

[carpsniperg2]

i have really liked wild country. we have about 10 rigs and have run all types of tires on them and they do everything from pavement to nasty rock. i have had nothing but good luck with them. i just looked at some for my newer truck and they have a 50,000 mile warrenty on them but they are still around 1200.00 not as bad as on my old truck about 1500-1800 tires are spendy thats for sure

[jackelope]

Rick,
Its not just the Rams that destroy those tires.

Lack of rotation. On the bigger rigs its a good idea do do it more offten. Most people go 4-5k miles befor doing a rotation.
If you keep up on them every 3k miles and cross rotate them (& rebalance) every other rotation. They dont cup.

Other recomandations
Mud Terain SXT's 
BFGoodwich  Mud Teraian

We've seen enough of them on the big trucks and have the maintenance history to show it's not lack of rotation. Even Schwabs recommends 5k mile rotations on those tires and they still do it. I have never heard of anyone ever recommending 3k mile rotates, nevermind balancing tires every 6k miles?? I have a hard time balancing tires out of the blue without a vibration complaint at all, nevermind balancing them for no reason every 6k miles.

[medic6]

Destination Mud terrain by Firestone come in an E rated 10 ply tire for 950.00 (buy 3 get one free)out the door.  I am putting some on Sat afternoon on my one ton dodge mega cab 315/70r17.  They got Great ratings/reviews on tirerack.com  They are so popular they are back ordered a 2 month.

I currently have toyo mt and they lasted 39,000 miles 295/70r17.