Perfect,sounds like a nice dog.I have a FC setter and he got his the hard way also,with no puppy or derby points.He was the top dog in his breed that year,I trialed him 3 years.He's a machine,I also have another machine and she's a really NICE go getter.I'm hoping she comes in season here in the next little bit,the combination of the two should make some pretty nice pups.I'm basing the breeding on performance first and papers least.Major trainwrecks on all the "On paper AF CH sired hotrod" bred dogs I've tried to cultivate a performer out of.Who you got your dog with?