turned in a poacher

[remington300mag]

Did you turn in your partner for shooting an illegal elk as well?!?!?

[woodman]

Did you turn in your partner for shooting an illegal elk as well?!?!?

That is a really good question. How many people can be ticketed with  one tag on the elk?

[fishermanjoe]

Did you turn in your partner for shooting an illegal elk as well?!?!?

No, but i should of. A shot to the lower leg is not fatal but still illegal.


I would like to stay on and defend myself from the wolves but i have a paper due at one.

So flame on until i get back.  

[Skillet]

Actually that is as far from the truth as you can get. after the shots happened we looked and saw the old guy walking down to the animal.  We scanned the radio and found what channel they were on. We offered to help pack out the animal, but they refused (which we found to be kind of fishy). So after a few min of the hunting party standing around i said screw it i am going shed hunting. After walking around i found an old skidder road that brought me about 20 yards ( up hill) away from the downed elk and the hunter. I went over to congratulate him on his kill. but noticed he had a 2x2 and not a 2x1. He was very polite and nice. I offered to help pack the animal out with them and the refused again. I asked if i could take a picture of the animal for my hunting parties amusement. When he held the antlers he covered one of the tines with his palm. So he knew it was an illegal animal. There were no harsh words or bad language.

If that's the way it happened, that's the way it happened.  Might want to stop telling this story, though.  You're lucky the Gamie didn't ring your buddy up, too.

[remington300mag]

Did you turn in your partner for shooting an illegal elk as well?!?!?

No, but i should of. A shot to the lower leg is not fatal but still illegal.


I would like to stay on and defend myself from the wolves but i have a paper due at one.

So flame on until i get back.  

Fisherman.....I want you to know I am not flaming on you at all....as the story stands, you didn't do anything wrong in the eyes of the law....your partner did though. So, by you not turning him in is a moral issue on your part....and that should not be judged by anyone..... So, yes, you did the right thing by turning the guy in that tagged the animal.....but if I did that, I would have had to tell the gammie the whole story.......but that is just me! 

[.300-Ultra]

I saw this Elk & I know the old man..... The old man shot the Elk twice after looking at it bare eyed, then with Bino's & again through his scope @ less than 100yds.  After he deterimined it was a spike, after he shot it an another hunter from across the valley also firing 2 shots & hitting the Elk at least once.    The hunter who approached & was trying to get a picture was mad that he didnt get to tag it first that is why he turned the old man in.  To get revenge & points...... the tine was broke off and ground down & already smooth & shiny, it had been like that a while...The game warden measured it 3 different ways until he found a way that was 3/16th of IN to long.....now what comes into ? is the point of origin.  This was a bump almost like a wart.....I fully agree with turning in poacher's but because you didnt get to tag the Elk doesnt make him a poacher.  You put lead into the animal also    Any hunter in The LT Murray would have bagged that Elk

[300UltraMagShooter]

I saw this Elk & I know the old man..... The old man shot the Elk twice after looking at it bare eyed, then with Bino's & again through his scope @ less than 100yds.  After he deterimined it was a spike, after he shot it an another hunter from across the valley also firing 2 shots & hitting the Elk at least once.    The hunter who approached & was trying to get a picture was mad that he didnt get to tag it first that is why he turned the old man in.  To get revenge & points...... the tine was broke off and ground down & already smooth & shiny, it had been like that a while...The game warden measured it 3 different ways until he found a way that was 3/16th of IN to long.....now what comes into ? is the point of origin.  This was a bump almost like a wart.....I fully agree with turning in poacher's but because you didnt get to tag the Elk doesnt make him a poacher.  You put lead into the animal also    Any hunter in The LT Murray would have bagged that Elk

I tried to stay out of this one because I trust noone.  I certainly don't like the sound of turning in an old man (who for all I know has bad eyes and was an honest mistake). 

However, if this is true....  wow, where t begin.  I'll let you defend yourself before I say my piece.

[MLBowhunting]

Man just a bad deal all around. Its almost like you have to bino the animal when hes looking at you, then looking forward and looking behind him.  There could be a point anywhere    I will just continue to hunt on the wetside

[tlbradford]

Did you turn in your partner for shooting an illegal elk as well?!?!?

No, but i should of. A shot to the lower leg is not fatal but still illegal.


I would like to stay on and defend myself from the wolves but i have a paper due at one.

So flame on until i get back.  

Fisherman.....I want you to know I am not flaming on you at all....as the story stands, you didn't do anything wrong in the eyes of the law....your partner did though. So, by you not turning him in is a moral issue on your part....and that should not be judged by anyone..... So, yes, you did the right thing by turning the guy in that tagged the animal.....but if I did that, I would have had to tell the gammie the whole story.......but that is just me!  

   If you turn in one, you should turn in both.  Just the way my conscience would work.  You decided to go shed hunting and just happened to end up 20 yards from the group?  

I love rifle hunting, but am so glad I gave it up for archery.

[CoachNemo]

I have a quick question...

Is it common practice to shoot at an animal you saw someone else take a shot and "noticed it was hit and was going to help out by finishing him off"?  I have never hunted big game so I am just asking a question, but this makes me a little leery of being out in the woods.  I know it wasn't you that shot at the animal, but that's wrong on a whole different level

[fishermanjoe]

.....I fully agree with turning in poacher's but because you didnt get to tag the Elk doesnt make him a poacher.  You put lead into the animal also    Any hunter in The LT Murray would have bagged that Elk

I beg to differ. I did not fire a single shot that day. Our irresponsible ex-hunting partner took the shot. Did I do it for revenge... Hell no. If i were to do this act in revenge i would of had the WDFW poaching hotline on the phone before i got back to the truck. It just so happened that there was a warden right there.

You say any hunter in LT would of bagged that elk, gosh no, what is the difference between an elk that is 3/16 to long vs one that is 5" to long, nothing they are both illegal elk.

I have a quick question...

Is it common practice to shoot at an animal you saw someone else take a shot and "noticed it was hit and was going to help out by finishing him off"?  I have never hunted big game so I am just asking a question, but this makes me a little leery of being out in the woods.  I know it wasn't you that shot at the animal, but that's wrong on a whole different level

No in my book if a hunter is on an animal you just sit tight and leave them be.

[fishermanjoe]

.300-Ultra...... Why did you send me a PM of your last post..... I don't get it 

[300UltraMagShooter]

You say any hunter in LT would of bagged that elk, gosh no, what is the difference between an elk that is 3/16 to long vs one that is 5" to long, nothing they are both illegal elk.

I call *censored* on that one.  Plus, what kind of person would give a ticket over 3/16", especially since we all know the difficulty in measuring a tine anyway?  Measuring a tine is subjective when you have your hand on it, much less at 100 yards scope or not.

He may be able to get away with giving him a ticket, but I'd feel like a rat over turning that in...

 

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

Antler Point-Elk: A projection off any part
of the antler measuring at least one (1) inch
in length measured from the longest side. Eye
guards are antler points if they are at least one
inch long

Spike Bull Restrictions:
Elk taken in these units must have at least one antler with no branches
originating more than four inches above where the antler attaches to the skull.
An animal with a spike on one side (1x2) is legal in spike only units. An animal
with more than one antler point more than four inches above where the antler
attaches to the skull on both sides (2x2) is illegal.

If it was in a spike only unit, and had obvious 2 pts on one side, and a "bump" 13/16" long on the other, I can see how an old man could make a mistake,
 but the 2 on the one side would be enough for me to question whether or not to shoot, myself.
I don't feel that you did anything wrong, but your "ex-hunting partner" is an A-hole, for shooting an animal someone else shot first.
Hopefully the old man will be able to explain his case to the judge and not be in too much trouble.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PICTURES YOU SAY YOU TOOK, just out of curiosity.

[.300-Ultra]

Fisherman...I sent u a pm to ensure u read my post...u need to turn u "ex hunting" partner in also. The game warden did not issue a ticket...he confiscated the animal & took animal to the mission. And said I will be turning this over to the prosecuter & let him decide...the game warden was called he told me so himself then he went down in the hole to investigate....he also said that "was 7th or 8th animal he had taken in the last few weeks"