how many un - true spikes got poached this weekend

[woodywsu]

The rule is to increase the bull:cow ratio. Several factors are limiting the number of bulls in teh Colockum and I think we all know what the #1 factor is. True spike rule will not fix the problem.

[Curly]

Could it be argued that a 3x1 has inferior genes anyway and he should be pulled out of the gene pool.    Just wondering.

[banannaclip]

NO IT IS DESIGNED FOR FAILUrE THE GAME DEPATMENT DONT GIVE A *censored* ABOUT US ,NOR DOES THE FOREST SERVICE,  one fo the members in our camp is a game warden the other is a snohomish county sheriff   your wrong its all designed for hunter failure.

[shedcrazy]

The rule is to increase the bull:cow ratio. Several factors are limiting the number of bulls in teh Colockum and I think we all know what the #1 factor is. True spike rule will not fix the problem.

[woodywsu]

Could it be argued that a 3x1 has inferior genes anyway and he should be pulled out of the gene pool.    Just wondering.

you can't argue with wdfw.

[bobcat]

NO IT IS DESIGNED FOR FAILUrE THE GAME DEPATMENT DONT GIVE A *censored* ABOUT US ,NOR DOES THE FOREST SERVICE,  one fo the members in our camp is a game warden the other is a snohomish county sheriff   your wrong its all designed for hunter failure.

I guess that's one way to think of it, but you could also say it is designed for a very low success rate, or a very low number of bull elk harvested while still allowing the maximum number of people that actually get to hunt elk.

[steen]

It is really no different than the 3 point or better rule.  Good optics and good judgement.  I've never had a problem but I only shoot when I know for sure.  You don't have to hunt the spike only units.  I enjoy my mule deer hunt even if I don't get one, there are always blacktail back at home.  With elk, I have only hunted them once and that was with a permit draw.  Just the choice I've made.  Sound like it is to much  of a mad house when hunting spike only units so I don't hunt them.  

[6x6in6]

NO IT IS DESIGNED FOR FAILUrE THE GAME DEPATMENT DONT GIVE A *censored* ABOUT US ,NOR DOES THE FOREST SERVICE,  one fo the members in our camp is a game warden the other is a snohomish county sheriff   your wrong its all designed for hunter failure.

WTF does the forest service have to do with it?
No, it is not designed for failure.  It is designed for escapement.

[C-Money]

Could it be argued that a 3x1 has inferior genes anyway and he should be pulled out of the gene pool.    Just wondering.

I think at this point, we are lucky that there are any genes left to spread at all in the Colockum after other groups are done. If we all played by the same rules, spike only would work great! Lots of branch tags to draw!

[banannaclip]

DESIGNED FOR FAILURE. the new camp rules 14 day period  you half to move your camp then after 14 more days if its still there the forest service takes it all.you know our camp goes up 2 days before deer and is up till the end of elk season so its in one place the whole time why should we have too move it?give one reason thats right there is none .plus all the campgrounds close because of hunting season cause they dont want hunteRs using them .thats what the forest service has todo with it sheeesh.the true spike rule is a joke. DESIGNED FOR HUNTER FAILURE

[6x6in6]

 Wow!
 

[bobcat]

DESIGNED FOR HUNTER FAILURE

I don't agree with spike only regulations, because I would like to see even more restrictive seasons with less people hunting elk each year. But what you're saying is ridiculous. If every hunter was successful in killing an elk, there wouldn't be any left!

[banannaclip]

NOT saying that every hunter should be successfull.yes i agree lets have a number of alloted tag for eastside westside any bull that way  its not over  run with a bunch of hunters in an impossible hunt. a hunt that has a number of hunters hunting elk with out restictions  any bull.

[colockumelk]

For those that don't support the area going to permit only stop complaining about true spike. Its true spike because the majority of hunters and the wdfwdont want to do what's right for that herd. True spike IS DESIGNED for less harvest. DUH!!! Its because with the past regs with spike o ly regs the bull to cow ratio was on a steady decline. It has been for ten years. At least now the herd has stabilized. Its not getting better but at least its not declining.

  My research speaks for itself and I've beet that horse to death. They wrote articles about my research. People know what the right thing to do is. Now lets pressure the wfdw to do the right thing.

[woodywsu]

 

If there wasn't a 14 day limit, public property would be filled with migrant workers living there throughout the farming season leaving a destroyed area with tons of trash. IMO.

The true spike rule is to bump the bull numbers. If we do not have enough bulls, then not all cows will get bred. Understand? If this means lower success rates, then it is doing its job.