Long Range Caliber?

[HUNT]

Hehehehe... I love the comments on the 7 mm mag.  He did not say what bullet he was using or his load.  I love the comments...   

I was talking about the 7mm Ultra Mag.  Most people dont know much about it or about the 7mm STW which is pretty close to it.  

[HUNT]

Wow, I guess it's flat.  I didn't know you could get 3600 fps out them.  That's cool.  My reloading book is too old to have the RUM in it.

Those are hand loads --  and they are pretty close to an absolute max load as they are starting to show signs of pressure.  The TTSX bullet gives lower pressures than other bullets because if their design.  I am loaded over the max published load but it works great in my rifle.  I think the published data shows max velocity at around 3350 or so....  

[Wanttohuntmore]

and to state again what HUNT said, he's shooting 3" high at 100, for a zero at 350yds.  That 7 RUM is about as big as I would want to go in a normal weight rifle without a brake (similar to my 7stw).  Definitely the RUM's are flat shooters!  Side note, in the Nosler manual, was reloading for my dad's 300 wsm today, 165 grain accubonds.  Data showed about 3150 fps. With a 3006, you can push it about 2950, only 200 fps slower...  Amazing that the 3006 is so close, especially reading all the hype about the magnums!

I think someone said it best, whatever gun (308 and larger) that shoots sub moa, which you've practiced on out to the distance your shooting, will do the job on elk.

[Curly]

Wow, I guess it's flat.  I didn't know you could get 3600 fps out them.  That's cool.  My reloading book is too old to have the RUM in it.

Those are hand loads --  and they are pretty close to an absolute max load as they are starting to show signs of pressure.  The TTSX bullet gives lower pressures than other bullets because if their design.  I am loaded over the max published load but it works great in my rifle.  I think the published data shows max velocity at around 3350 or so....  

Isn't it great to be able to use 150 gr bullets on elk and have the velocity up that high and yet the bullet won't come apart?  You gotta love Barnes.  I use 168 gr Barnes in my 300 WM and love them.

[Wanttohuntmore]

Curious though, does the Barnes shed petals like they used to?  I used the old "X" bullets in a 3006, when they came out, and took 3 bear with them, all shed their "petals".  Was also surprised that I recovered them.  They were finicky with seating depth, and accuracy, and since I was trying to load one round for 2 rifles, ended up switching back to 180 gr partitions which I've had not faults with.

[Bobm]

26, 28, and 30 make good calibers.

A 30-06 or 7 Rem mag ect  are not calibers they're cartridges.

[high country]

Looking at a 270wsm or 257 weatherby for next year.

I have passed through elk at 450 measured yards with a 257 100gr tsx leaving the muzzle at 3600........dropped like a switch. possibly THE most underrated round in existance.......well, right behind the 2bit-06

[HUNT]

Wow, I guess it's flat.  I didn't know you could get 3600 fps out them.  That's cool.  My reloading book is too old to have the RUM in it.

Those are hand loads --  and they are pretty close to an absolute max load as they are starting to show signs of pressure.  The TTSX bullet gives lower pressures than other bullets because if their design.  I am loaded over the max published load but it works great in my rifle.  I think the published data shows max velocity at around 3350 or so....  

Isn't it great to be able to use 150 gr bullets on elk and have the velocity up that high and yet the bullet won't come apart?  You gotta love Barnes.  I use 168 gr Barnes in my 300 WM and love them.

I've got a few recovered bullets lying around.  They definately hold together.  My elk this year however at 400 yards- all 3 bullets were pass throughs...  Didnt recover any of them. 

[DOUBLELUNG]

300-500 yds = 30-06  Underrated cartridge for that range

I can hear the booos now

 

I'll cheer.  I have made a personal choice to not shoot beyond 400 yards; I have an aversion to shooting past 300 yards.  However, back in the day I killed many a deer and antelope at 400-565 yards with the 150gr 30-06.

[Hyde]

Can anyone comment on barrel life with the 7 Rem Ultra Mag?  I read somewhere that barrel life is low.  What is "low"?  If a person fired say 200 rounds a year (or less), would the barrel last a reasonable amount of time?  The one I am looking at has a 26 inch barrel. 

[high country]

2500-3500 depending how you shoot and clean...time between shots, etc.

[HUNT]

Can anyone comment on barrel life with the 7 Rem Ultra Mag?  I read somewhere that barrel life is low.  What is "low"?  If a person fired say 200 rounds a year (or less), would the barrel last a reasonable amount of time?  The one I am looking at has a 26 inch barrel. 

I've heard anywhere between 1000-2000 rounds depending on how you take care of it and what loads you shoot.  Heard the same thing for the STW.  When mine wears out - I'll rebarrel it.   

[high country]

you will see a reduction by the 1-2k if you are measuring groups with micrometers. guys that count group size on a tape measure will get longer life just because they cant see it happening. stainless tends to last a bit longer but go gunnybag all at once, cro-mo tends to die more slowly, albeit sooner.

[coachcw]

I own a 30-378 and shoot factory 180x loads fron wheatherby , I've nicknamed it thors hammer . shooting a 26 inch barrel and 4x12 leopod . under 300 yards hold and shoot 500 top of back 2.5 high at 100 .