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Change one regulation....
« on: April 23, 2008, 10:24:22 AM »
If you could change one muzzleloading regulation, what would it be?

If I would change one it would be to allow the use of jacketed and copper bullets.

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Re: Change one regulation....
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2008, 10:26:18 AM »
Make them hunt during modern season...... :chuckle:

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Re: Change one regulation....
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2008, 10:36:27 AM »
How about an any bull statewide October 1-10 season.

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If I could change one thing it would be that the nipple does not have to be exposed to the elements (still no 209's only #11 or musket caps)
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Re: Change one regulation....
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2008, 10:44:31 AM »
How about an any bull statewide October 1-10 season.

JK !!

If I could change one thing it would be that the nipple does not have to be exposed to the elements (still no 209's only #11 or musket caps)
I agree, but I would like to use 209's as well.
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Re: Change one regulation....
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2008, 11:07:18 AM »
Take a little bit of season off of the bow season and add it to muzzle loader season. I think it should be primitive style like hawken style thats the onyl way to make it worth a while might as well use a rifel otherwise in my opinion. :dunno:

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Re: Change one regulation....
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2008, 11:19:24 AM »
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Re: Change one regulation....
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2008, 12:00:49 PM »
First off I shoot a traditional Muzzleloader but I have no problem with the Inlines. I even bought one but I just like my old traditional gun more.
I like the idea of allowing jacketed bullets. Jacketed bullets are not any more accurate and they do not allow a hunter to shoot farther. The advantage is that they do more damage on impact. Allowing Jacketed bullets would result in more retrieved game and fewer wounded animals.
A solid chunk of lead doesn't do the damage that a modern broadhead or high power rifle does. I have been involved in a bunch of Muzzleloader kills and animals just don't bleed like they do when shot with a bow or rifle.
It is hard to know where to draw the line on this stuff....

Sometimes I think technology is getting out of hand.....  I think the manufacturers better watch out or we could end up going back to Long bows and Flintlocks. Ya know, that might not be so bad........

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Re: Change one regulation....
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2008, 12:06:01 PM »
I think primitive should mean primitive.....I'll save my speech.

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Re: Change one regulation....
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2008, 12:32:45 PM »
I think primitive should mean primitive.....I'll save my speech.

I agree.

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Re: Change one regulation....
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2008, 12:42:57 PM »
I agree too. I see these guys on the hunting shows with inlines jacketed bullets,scopes, 209s, etc and I think what the hell is the disadvantage or the challenge. I have 2 muzzleloaders a CVA hawken (.50 cal) I built from a kit and a Lyman Trade rifle (.54 cal) and have killed elk with both of them. The 385 gr slug dropped the cow I shot right in her tracks. I was able to retreive the slug and it retained 98% of it's weight and mushroomed to the dia. of a quarter (very devastating)

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Re: Change one regulation....
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2008, 01:06:55 PM »
 I'd like to see a Muley buck unit opened over here on the Eastside. I dont mind shooting does at all, but I really want to hunt a nice muley buck during the rut. And just for bone Ill use my .45 Hawken style............ : ;)



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Re: Change one regulation....
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2008, 01:37:50 PM »
Let them use the inlines and be protected from the elements. They're still limited range and can only do so much.  If the purists want primitive they're welcome to continue using primitive.

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Re: Change one regulation....
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2008, 07:52:53 PM »
How about an any bull statewide October 1-10 season.
 

They did this once, dont think it was statewide but i know on the eastside around the Teanaway, Taneum, etc.... they did it.  We switched to muzzeloader that year, I missed a big 6 and ended up getting a 4 point with another guy.  That first day the butcher got 27 branched bulls brought into his shop.  Not sure what to think about that season, it was only for one season.  Dont know if they were trying to reduce the herd or what. It was a fun hunt though.

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Re: Change one regulation....
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2008, 10:33:30 PM »
I like the idea of allowing jacketed bullets. Jacketed bullets are not any more accurate and they do not allow a hunter to shoot farther. The advantage is that they do more damage on impact. Allowing Jacketed bullets would result in more retrieved game and fewer wounded animals.

I don't agree. I wouldn't say a jacketed bullet does more damage on impact. That would depend on the particular bullet, I suppose. But just because a bullet is jacketed doesn't make it more lethal. The advantage would be in the higher velocity they can be loaded up to. I non-jacketed bullet is really maxed out at around not much more than 1500 to 1600 feet per second. When you get beyond that you get excessive fouling and a loss of accuracy. With a jacketed bullet you can load your muzzleloader up to the max, which is 150 grains with some of them, and really get them screaming. This DOES allow a gun to shoot farther, and DOES make a gun more accurate at longer ranges.

The line needs to be drawn somewhere and I think the WDFW has done a good job in balancing what is allowed and what isn't. If anything I think the restrictions should be even more. But I can live with the way it is now.

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Re: Change one regulation....
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2008, 10:44:36 PM »
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Sometimes I think technology is getting out of hand.....  I think the manufacturers better watch out or we could end up going back to Long bows and Flintlocks. Ya know, that might not be so bad........

We're already there if you ask me. Longbows and flintlocks sound ok to me. Not against other types but they should be lumped in with general season in my book. That includes fancy 209s and compound bows.

 


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