270 WSM or 300WSM?

[257 Wby Mag]

I'll put my faith in boolit going where it needs to go....

 The tikka kinda defeats the "short mag" theory, being they have the same length actions, the feeding problems will be non-existent with the the straight stack clip as well. My coyote buster is a T3 223, just can't like the way it fits, but I get by... Here's mine, homemade camo job, 3x9 Ziess....

[700xcr]

I have a Remington model 700xcr in 270wsm and my son has a Winchester model 70 stainless with synthetic stock. The 300wsm has more recoil for sure. The 270wsm is a pleasure to shoot. I am playing around with the 150gr. Berger VLD bullets with the BC of 0.545. Granted you can load a heavier bullet in the 300wsm. It really comes down to personal preference on what you will be hunting. Personally I would not be afraid to use the 270wsm on elk.

[Tony 270WSM]

The 270 will definitely take elk and mine will be on duty this fall. 140 Accubonds or 150 XP3s. Maybe a TSX.

Looked at the Sako, a very fine rifle. Heard nothing but good things about them.

[MountainWalk]

say tony.. how do those xp3's do for you? are they tough?  i do quite a bit of bullet testing with wet newspaper and phone books, but have yet to shoot the xps'. you like them?

[Tony 270WSM]

I'd love to tell you but haven't used them yet, only read numerous reports. Have had great results with Accubonds at close and long ranges and TSXs are proven bullets. But XP3s sound promising so want to try them out and see how they perform.

[MountainWalk]

i have a few 230 grain win fail safes that i adore, but im saving thoses since their the last ones that i can find.. ive used the accubond, its good, but still looking.. thought about the a frame, but dont know if they come in 250's. think i may settle with the norma oryx. all these will be for elk

for deer and bear i like plain old 200 grain power points

[bankwalker]

Thats funny
 I almost forgot about that guy 
 The deal with the montanas are they shoot really well or crappy, luck of the draw

yeah thats what made me turn away from them. they are everything i want in a rifle. but i dont want to take the chance and get a crappy one.

ill stick with my ruger...if i decide to trade my blackwidow to get it back from my buddie lol

other then that its gonna be a tikka t3 lite or remington mountain lss...

[Bofire]

William (Fosteology) is a great guy and quite knowledgable about rifles. but this time we gotta agree to disagree. I am not impressed with any of the Kimber rifles I have handled or shot. The Kimber I liked least is the Montana, the light weight some might like but I find it "out of balance" feeling.
Secondly, I will NOT put money into a new rifle, if it does not shoot well from the factory, it gets sold. Every Tikka I have fired shoots like crazy and they need nothing done. I was a Remington fan for years but when it got to the point of buying a new rifle, getting it bedded, trigger job etc, I quit buying them. Same reason I wont buy Ruger rifles.
Sako is super.
To your question, I'd go with the 300 for your use due to your range of 400 yards, I wont shoot that far, but if you can, I think a 180 or 200 grain at 400 yards is much more effective than a 130-150 grain.
By the way Fosteology shot my 300 mag Tikka T3 lite, if he comments, I am sure he will say, the recoil is not big deal.
Carl

[Antlershed]

To some degree it's a flip of the coin.  Both are gonna be great out to 300-350yards.  If you're talking 400 yard shots though I think you're be a lil better off w/ the 300wsm.  Not that the 270 can't perform at those ranges but more that the 300's bullet weights are going to perform better.  Once you get over about 300yards I think you're pushing the envelope a little on the 270... especially if on bigger animals.

If you can place your shot right where you want it, the .270 is fine. There was a guy on another board that dropped a bear in one shot with his .270 at 452 yards. It was a total custom rifle, but as long as the bullet hits where you want, its gonna go down. And, if you are going to be shooting those ranges, you better be able to hit where you want to. 

[FOsteology]

The Tikka is the LAST rifle I would consider for the WSM based cartridges simply due to the "one size fits all" action length.

The Tikka has no doubt earned a reputation for accuracy at an affordable price. The actions are very slick, they feed flawlessly, and have good triggers. Plus, they're light and balance well IMO.... however, after owning a few and handling/shooting several others, I simply couldn't warm up to the extensive use of plastic. The stock particularly exhibits too much flex....

Carl mentioned recoil is not bad..... that's subjective! I shoot mainly medium bores (.35 calibers) and up, so what feels light to me may feel like a donkey punch to someone else! lol
Plus, no fair throwing your .300WM T3 in the mix in regards to felt recoil.... your rifle had a braked!    lol


While I have not owned a Remington chambered in any of the WSM flavors, I have heard consistently that they typically exhibit feeding and extraction issues.

If I were in the market for a WSM and wasn't building, the Montana would get my money. Dealing with a simple recrown or bedding issue is no big deal.

[700xcr]

I did have a little problem with the Remington model 700xcr 270wsm in feeding but I fixed it with a Wyatts single stack box magazine. Now it feeds like butter. The problem is with Remington double stack factory magazine is that it cocks the cartridge out of the magazine at an angle. Then you would have to back off the bolt and slowly go back in with it. That was my only complaint with the rifle. Sure I loose one round out of the magazine but this gun is so accurate I don't care. Instead of three in the magazine now I have two.

[WDFW-SUX]

I have never owned a short mag because they don't have belts......im a belted mag fan 7mm rem mag, 7mm stw, all the Weatherby stuff, 338 win, 8mm, 375 HH, etc

[Tony 270WSM]

700XCR

What kind of groups are you getting?

[700xcr]

I am getting 1/2" groups at 100yds. with Factory Winchester 150gr. Power Point ammo. I have some Berger 150gr. VLD bullets that I am in the process of reloading.

[Red Dawg]

sweet, i need one.