I really prefer the spring hunt, but I am an eastsider, we typically do not see much for rubs in the areas I apply for as it is typiccally still quite cold. I have never seen more than a few bears on a single day in the fall (excluding cubs) yet in the spring there have been days that I have seen 13 different bears. I looked at over 40 bears last year before I took mine. try that in the fall....wood cutters, dirt bikers, fishermen, jeeps, grouse hunters, target shooters......too many folks for me in the fall.