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Backcountry Spotter Advice?
« on: February 15, 2011, 10:00:35 AM »
I am looking for a spotter that I can pack with me into the backcountry.  I have narrowed it down to these two spotting scopes. I don't have experience with either of them so I was hoping some of you could tell me which one you prefer and any experiences with these spotter and their pros and cons.  I contemplated the Minox but I think you have to buy the zoom eyepiece separate.  In any case I read all the reviews between these two on Cabelas.  They basically received the same rating. (4.6 each) The Leupold is 11" long and weighs 21.5oz.  The Nikon measures 11.5" long and weighs 32oz. They cost almost exactly the same.  So they are both easily packable.  Here are my questions?  I am wondering which has the best clarity and low light performance.  Also is 30x enough for backcountry elk and deer hunting?  I don't plan on using this in the open country.  (My brother has a big one for that) I just want to be able to count points on the other side of the drainage.  Will either of these do that?  Which one does it better? Thanks for any help.
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Re: Backcountry Spotter Advice?
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2011, 10:22:53 AM »
I have a buddy that works for Nikon and might be able to get you a deal on the scope. PM me for more details.
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Re: Backcountry Spotter Advice?
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2011, 12:19:26 PM »
I was dead set on the Leupold, I compared it with and looked through a few others last fall and was just waiting and looking for a decent deal.  Then I found this Minox and couldn't pass up the deal.  I read reviews on birding forums, and for the price discount this is a smoking deal.  It's shorter than the Leupy, the only real thing that I wish was different was the focus ring.  This one is on the barrel and is kind of stiff. It focuses very quickly though with little movement so it's not that bad.  The size is a huge plus for me, it easily fits in my pack and leaves plenty of room for other stuff.   The image is very clear, and I'm very happy with the scope so far.  I took it out every day for a week when I got home from work and looked through it... :chuckle:

*  There is no separate eyepiece...this is all you  need.

With the bigger Minox spotter you need to purchase a separate eyepiece.  Cameraland also has one of those discounted that includes the eyepiece...

http://www.cameralandny.com/optics/minox.pl?page=62226
  


Minox MD 50
Part# 62226

Compact, robust and lightweight: MINOX now has a telescope you can take anywhere!

Travel friendly dimensions, a variable power top-of-the-range optical system and highest precision mechanics, these are the characteristics of the brand new MINOX MD 50 telescope, representing the classic design and production values of the brand MINOX at a very high level. With its fully adjustable eyepiece from 16x to 30x magnification, its compact dimensions and weighing in at just 615 grams the new MINOX MD 50 truly is a spotting scope to have with you at all times.

By having the MD 50 in its overall product range MINOX offers yet another optical product for the ever expanding market of nature observers. Bird watchers in particular value more and more the advantages of a high quality telescope which is still compact enough to carry in a backpack or luggage when traveling. However birders and nature enthusiasts do not want to forfeit quality for convenience and MINOX have made sure that the small size does not compromise quality. Yes, the new MINOX spotting scope can, under certain conditions, be an excellent supplement to binoculars, in particular if a stronger magnification than available binoculars is required. With the 16x magnification of the variable eyepiece the compact MD 50 W can at times be hand-held, although for optimum use a tripod is always recommended.

Even with a 50 mm entrance pupil the MD 50 is very powerful and provides good bright images. For high light transmission as well as brilliance, high contrast and natural color rendition the high resolution objective lens system features the multi-layer M* coating which is a MINOX development. This helps to ensure the high quality required for detailed observation and reliable identification of a species. The engineers at MINOX have also provided an extremely close focus range making using the MD 50 W a real pleasure. Go from just five meters from your subject right through to infinity. An angled scope provides a more relaxed stance during viewing and with a swivel tripod connection the telescope can be pivoted when on a tripod.

The sturdy but lightweight body protects the precision mechanics and optics against damage in normal use. Rubber armoring ensures good to grip and provides added protection as it is also dustproof and watertight to a depth five meters. Nitrogen filling on the inside prevents corrosion and fogging caused by condensation, even with extreme temperature fluctuations.

Price: $299.99
Demo Unit Price: $189.99
NOTE: This is actually a NEW unit that had been on display at a recent show. Available while supplies last.

    * Magnification:
      16x ~ 30x
    * Front lens diameter:
      1.97 inch / 50 mm
    * Exit pupil:
      0.131 inch ~ 0.066 inch
      3.33 mm ~ 1.67 mm
    * Field of view:
      160 ft ~ 100 ft at 1000 yds
      49 m ~ 33 m auf 1.000 m
      2.7° ~ 1.9°
    * Eye relief:
      0.59 inch ~ 0.43 inch
      15 mm ~ 11 mm
    * Close distance:
      16.4 ft, 5 m
    * Twilight factor:
      27.4 ~ 38.7
    * Operating temperatures:
      14° up to 104° F
      -10° up to +40° C
    * Waterproof:
      Yes, down to 16.4 ft, 5 m
    * Dimensions:
      8.39 x 2.48 x 4.84 inch
      213 x 63 x 123 mm
    * Weight, approx:
      23.28 oz / 660 g
    * Features:
      Nitrogen filling, M*-multicoating, swivel tripod connection
    * Order number:
      62226


Let me know if you want to see some pictures and I'll take some with stuff to reference for size, shape, etc...
« Last Edit: February 15, 2011, 12:27:46 PM by Miles »

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Re: Backcountry Spotter Advice?
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2011, 12:34:08 PM »
The focus knob really brought the overall score down, but in my opinion it's something I can deal with for the price difference... 

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Re: Backcountry Spotter Advice?
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2011, 05:25:10 PM »
Well ive never looked through either but from the specs you gave and you wanting for a "backcountry spotter" the weight of the nikon would automatically through it out, thats too much extra wait for me if im packing into an area because im not a really big guy and every little bit counts. Also you cant go wrong with leups customer service.

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Re: Backcountry Spotter Advice?
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Re: Backcountry Spotter Advice?
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2011, 08:22:02 PM »
Wow thats an awsome deal.  Looks like I might have to make a decision NOW!!!  :yike:
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Re: Backcountry Spotter Advice?
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2011, 08:28:06 PM »
It wont last long on the fire.

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Re: Backcountry Spotter Advice?
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2011, 08:45:59 PM »
If you aren't able to pick up that Leupy and don't mind spending the money, I would very seriously consider the Nikon ED 50.  Great reputation.

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Re: Backcountry Spotter Advice?
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2011, 07:49:37 AM »
As someone who tends to gravitate toward Nikon a lot, I would get the Leupold Golden Ring HD, I think its the 12-40x60 and a carbon fiber monopod.

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Re: Backcountry Spotter Advice?
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2011, 08:30:33 PM »
I appreciate everyones help and advice.  My wife and I talked it over a bit and this is what we decided upon.  I have an archery elk hunt planned into a wilderness area with my brother.  I have some things that I NEED to buy in order to do this hunt.  Not alot of stuff but some things.  Such as a sleeping bag, sleeping pad, etc.  Once I have purchased those things I will take whatever money I have left saved up and will buy the best glass I can afford.  I have also decided I probably shouldn't make a purchase without actually looking through a set of optics.  So I'm gonna put my decision on hold until I can find a place to look through some glass.  In SE Alabama there is not a place.  People down here don't use spotting scopes so no one carries them.  It's still gonna probably come down to these two scopes.  Again thankyou for the input.   
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Re: Backcountry Spotter Advice?
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2011, 09:43:44 PM »
Go to REI online and sign up for the E-mails.
They have some unreal deals once in awhile on high end gear, I've bought some gear on there that I could have never been able to afford at full price.

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Re: Backcountry Spotter Advice?
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2011, 04:07:10 PM »
and craigslist/backpage. Lots of gently used gear out there at steep discounts. Wash it and you're good to go. LOTS of money left over for glass taht way.  8)

 


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