Roosevelt bull

[boneaddict]

285-290  Hes too short on the top end to hit the 300 mark IMO.  Great bull.

[tjgerm]

I think the bottom bulls main beams and g3s are longer but the g1s and 2s look alot shorter g4 look comparable and the girth of the velvet bull seems heavier. Maybe it's just hard to tell without actually measuring. Here tell me how long yo would think the mainbeams are on this bull

[tjgerm]

I've been looking at some pics and I think the velvet bull would go more low 300s but would break 300. I'm no pro just for fun. The 2 pics that Bucklucky posted to me it looks like the top Bull has better fronts but main beam length is short compared to the bottom one. But could be an illusion due to the fronts being bigger. What do they score if you know??

[bucklucky]

 I missed your other post. That picture you posted is too tough to really tell. I think that pic is makes it look bigger than it actually is. ID GUESS 48 but I wouldnt be surprised if it is shorrter. I usually wont even guess on pics like that.

That top bull had 49 inch beams and goes right close to 350, that second bull is 333 with a 40 inch inside, 48 inch beams if I remember right , 18 inch thirds.

[tjgerm]

I think the top bulls mains look shorter due to the fronts being so nice. I think this is the case with the velvet bull. The last photo I posted that bull only has 36" mains scores about 250. Just can't reaaly measure from a photo.

[bucklucky]

Thats why I said I usually done guess on pics like that last one you posted, Its trick photograpy. What is funny is I origionally put 40 as the main length and second guessed the picture so I changed it. You can call BS on that if you want  Got any good pics to guess on ? Ill guess some more  Im ready for september 

[tjgerm]

Those are the only 2 decent bulls I've killed. I do have a group photo of 5 nice bulls you could take a crack at that one but it would be more of a real estimate based on overall size of the antlers. Easier to get a rough estimate though due to people in the photo and multiple antlers something to guage off of

[tjgerm]

Also that top bull you posted looks to have pretty nice fronts that curl up don't know how long. But go back and look at the third photo of the velvet bull and take a look at his fronts look for a while those things are like an energizer battery they keep going and going. They are extemely long I think after going thru these photos when you take into consideration that this bull has a huge body he's in velvet it will make the lenth of his antlers seem smaller. Also this is an Olympic roosevelt which according to facts are quite a bit larger body wise to a rocky mountain. And I'm guessing that cascade roosevelt are a cross with rockies thats probably why they are a diff species in the book just like coastal blacktail and cascade blacktail. So if this is the case a cascade roosie would obviosly be smaller bodied than a olympic roosevelt. So if you were looking at a photo of the two seperatly obviosly a cascade roosevelt's antlers would look larger nextto his smaller body? Lots of typos prob didn't spell chck

[wsucowboy]

regardless of what it would score that is a great bull 

[ORCA_SIX]

  I concur.

[Skyvalhunter]

  I reconcour

[bucklucky]

Hey tjgerm, actually that top bull is a rocky . ANd for your info a mature Rocky out of the blues will be just like a big Roosie. Its the average size of rockies are smaller but that is taking into concideration that other states like colorado have way smaller bodied bulls. The Bulls in the Blues are BIG. The Biggest capes I ever get in are from those big 10 year old Blues bulls. I have to use the biggest bull form and add to them to get them to fit. So that top bull is on a Huge form. I do know what you are saying though and it goes into concideration when Im making a stab at the score. Its those conciderations that I take that usually keep me in tha ballpark. That blues bull had a 13 1/4 eye to nose  and a 36 inch neck at the ears. Thats BIG, like Roosie Big  That velvet bull has about 17 inch , at the longest, eyeguards. And that  is on the g-2s, the g-1s are about 2-3 inches shorter. You just have to inturprit the picture correctly instead of trying to make him grow  . I take it there are no hard horned pics of him? 

[Skyvalhunter]

Well when I get that big ol Blues Bull I will be comming over to talk to you!!

[tjgerm]

No hard horned pics. That camera is still there with a couple more in the area will check them again in May. And probably October after that. They did find a shed that they believe is from this bull they figure it was a couple years old due to being covered in moss and the only point that had been chewed on was the G4 which was the only point exposed. I'll check it out next time I see him it was from the right side. He said it looks real similar. Yah i'm sure i'm probably streching this bull a bit. We've had alot of cameras out and this is by far the biggest. We've got a few more 6 bys and 5 bys that were nice but nothing like this. 

[bucklucky]

That is one dandy Roosie and I wish he was on my trail camera. I was hunting a bull that would gross about 330 , got some awesome footage of him , he went down hill a bit this year but got killed by some lucky bugger during rifle season. If my budy ever gets the footage on CD I'll show that one too you , BIG 7x7. Elduded me for 6 years, almost killed him a few times.....almost dont count though