you ALL need a discover pass for ALL DNR land.

[Machias]

So they can go along and just write anyone and say oh heck it wasn't displayed right or I didn't see it and cha-ching the state gets $59, PLUS your $35.  Plus your wasted time of having to go in and prove you already had the pass.

[BOWHUNTER45]

I thought you did not need one if you bought a licence before a certain date ..

[DeerThug]

Ok for those that have commented - why do we have to give the govt more money.  The state government does not have a revenue problem, it has a spending problem.  And this is not going to raise enough to amount to anything. 

So suck more money out of the economy to give it to a brother - that is  the mind set that has created this mess in the first place.

So cut education funding and then allow WSU to raise tuition 20% with that 20% reserved to fund free education...

I am sick of the redistribution...

[Alan K]

I absolutely despise this Discover Pass thing, but on the bright side I hope they enforce the crap out of it for at least the next 6 months.  It will surely help clean the scumbags and shady characters (drug dealers?) out of Capitol Forest. 

[Curly]

I hope they enforce the pass on the brush pickers up in CF.

[bobcat]

I'm thinking the brush pickers won't need it because they already have to have a special permit for picking brush.

[Elkaholic daWg]

 And we have to have a license or permit to hunt right? What is the difference? Other than we are spending money not making money.

[Curly]

 Q. If I am driving through state recreation lands, will I need to buy a pass?
A. Yes. Unless you are exempt from pass requirements, the pass is required anytime your vehicle is on state recreation lands managed by WDFW, DNR or State Parks. The pass is not required on roads managed by other jurisdictions, such as state highways or county roads that may pass through recreation lands.

I guess it depends on if the brush pickers fall under the exemptions....... 

[bobcat]

Here are the exemptions. I'd guess the last one will end up pertaining to the brush pickers.

Exemptions to the Discover Pass
Updated: June 20, 2011 

 Your purchase of the Discover Pass supports recreation on state lands. However, you do not need to purchase the pass under the certain circumstances. Download the "Do I need a Discover Pass?" chart (92KB PDF) or read the following information about exemptions to the Discover Pass:
 

• Camping in a Washington state park: Your camping reservation stub or camping fee receipt will serve as your permit for the duration of your stay in the park where you have paid for a campsite, vacation house, environmental learning center, yurt or cabin. If you visit other state parks in the area, you will need an annual or daily Discover Pass. You will need a pass if you are camping on lands managed by the Washington State Department of Natural Resources (DNR) or Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW).
• Hunting and fishing on WDFW-managed lands. The Discover Pass is not required for holders of certain hunting and fishing licenses on WDFW recreation lands and water-access sites. For those individuals, a "WDFW vehicle access pass" will be required for vehicle access to WDFW lands and boat launches. WDFW will honor WDFW vehicle use permits that were purchased prior to July 1, 2011, on WDFW lands through March 31, 2012.
  
   Those license holders will need a Discover Pass to access DNR-managed lands that are developed or designated as recreation areas, sites, trailheads and parking areas. Signs will be posted in these areas. License holders will not need a Discover Pass to access small blocks of undesignated DNR-managed lands.
  
   For vehicle access to lands managed by State Parks, all hunters or fishers will need to purchase the Discover Pass. As a reminder, hunting is not allowed on State Parks lands.
  
   Note: The vehicle access pass is valid for the license's year (April 1 through March 31) and is issued free of charge with an individual's initial purchase of  a big-game or small-game hunting license, western Washington pheasant permit, trapping license, Watchable Wildlife decal, or saltwater, freshwater or combination recreational fishing license.
• Sno-Park seasonal permit holders:  You do not need a Discover Pass to use a designated Sno-Park between Nov. 1 and March 31 for winter recreation activities. The Sno-Park permit exception does not apply to non-winter recreation activities.
• Off-Road Vehicle (ORVs):  If your ORV is required to display an ORV tab, you do not need a Discover Pass for that vehicle. Generally, ORVs are non-street-legal vehicles. You will need a Discover Pass for the street-legal vehicle that transports your ORV to a state recreation site. The trailer does not require a pass. Street-licensed vehicles, such as dual-sport motorcycles or four-wheel-drive vehicles, will be required to display a pass.
• Disabled veterans and other State Parks pass holders: Washington State Parks offers pass programs that reduce or waive camping, moorage and watercraft launch fees for limited-income senior citizens, disabled veterans, foster parents and people with disabilities who qualify for and receive a pass. These pass holders are not required to display the Discover Pass while visiting state parks but are required to display the Discover Pass while on WDFW or DNR lands. While on state park land, display your State Parks free or reduced pass on your dashboard in lieu of the Discover Pass.
• State Parks boat launch sites. You will not need a Discover Pass to launch your boat from a State Parks boat launch if you have the annual Natural Investment Permit. You will need the Discover Pass for boat launches managed by DNR and WDFW and in a state park using a daily launch permit.
• Volunteers. Volunteers who work 24 hours or more on agency-approved projects are eligible for a complimentary Discover Pass.
• Those with certain written agreements with agencies.  Individuals with leases, easements, and other contracts may not need a Discover Pass if their contract with the agency specifically exempts them from the pass. The agencies are analyzing their existing contracts to determine which ones provide exemptions from the Discover Pass requirement.

Please note: Even though the pass is not required in these cases, your purchase helps to maintain, manage and operate state recreation lands. As funding for recreation shifts from tax support to user fees, the responsibility to cover the costs of these exemptions will shift from the general public to visitors. You also may continue to donate to Washington State Parks when you register a vehicle through the Department of Licensing.
   

[BOWHUNTER45]

Ok for those that have commented - why do we have to give the govt more money.  The state government does not have a revenue problem, it has a spending problem.  And this is not going to raise enough to amount to anything. 

So suck more money out of the economy to give it to a brother - that is  the mind set that has created this mess in the first place.

So cut education funding and then allow WSU to raise tuition 20% with that 20% reserved to fund free education...

I am sick of the redistribution...

Amen brother....

[Elkaholic daWg]

 the LEGAL ones anyhow. Looks to me they are not exempt yet. I see gray areas in that language

User fees huh....
As funding for recreation shifts from tax support to user fees, the responsibility to cover the costs of these exemptions will shift from the general public to visitors.


 So now should we require neighborhoods where Bear are moved at DFW expense to help pay? Why not?  User fee


 You also may continue to donate to Washington State Parks when you register a vehicle through the Department of Licensing.


 How is it said?

 When the government robs Peter to pay Paul, it can always rely on support from Paul. What happens when there are too many Pauls?

[dreamingbig]

Guys,

Just to add reality to this dicussion, the actual price of the Discover Pass will be $35.00 after you add in dealer and transaction fees. This to me makes it just that much harder to swallow.

I have heard the non hunting crowd complaining about the extra $5 the state snuck in as well.  Apparently the NW forest service pass is sold to dealers at $27 and they get to sell it for $30 to cover their costs.  It sounds like they were expecting the discover pass to be similar but it wasn't rolled out that way.  They are buying them for $30 and get to sell them for $35 to cover their costs.  I can't see $5 of costs in it even if it is purchased with a credit card.  Interesting none the less.  I don't think I have to buy one this year and probably won't every year.

[Elkaholic daWg]

 Let the money grubbing begin!!!!!!


Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife
600 Capitol Way North, Olympia, WA 98501-1091
http://wdfw.wa.gov

July 2011

Contacts: (Fish) 360-902-2700
               (Wildlife) 360-902-2515

July brings waves of salmon,
and new state Discover Pass

Salmon fishing kicks into high gear at this time of year, when the Washington coast, several areas of Puget Sound and many rivers around the state are open for business. Most areas of Puget Sound also open for recreational crabbing July 1, setting the stage for a great Independence Day weekend. 

Also starting July 1, many anglers and others planning outdoor adventures will need to purchase a Discover Pass for vehicle access to state parks, campgrounds, boat launches and wildlife areas. The new requirement, approved this year by the state Legislature, is designed to help keep 7 million acres of state recreational lands open after steep budget cuts.

"The Discover Pass allows state natural-resource agencies to maintain public access to millions of acres of state recreation lands," said Phil Anderson, director of the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW). "Sport fishers and hunters have traditionally supported WDFW wildlife areas and water access sites through their license fees; now all who enjoy these lands will share in their support."

A Discover Pass will generally be required for vehicle access to recreation lands and water-access sites managed by WDFW, the Washington State Parks and Recreation Commission and the state Department of Natural Resources (DNR). The fine for not displaying the pass is $99.

However, some exemptions apply to the new requirement.  For example, holders of most annual fishing and hunting licenses will not be required to purchase a Discover Pass to use WDFW lands and water-access sites. Information about exemptions and other aspects of the pass is available at http://www.discoverpass.wa.gov/ or by calling 1-866-320-9933.

An annual Discover Pass costs $35, when purchased from WDFW online ( https://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov/ ) or by phone (1-866-320-9933) or from license vendors around the state. A one-day pass is also available for $11.50.

In addition, State Parks will sell the passes July 1-3 at its Olympia headquarters and at its Burlington and East Wenatchee regional offices in preparation for the Fourth of July weekend. The passes also will be sold at state park sites where staff is available.

Meanwhile, those afield on the Fourth of July and the rest of the month are asked to be careful not to spark a wildfire. Despite the delayed arrival of summer weather, wildfire danger is growing with warmer, drier weather, especially in eastern Washington.

DNR has banned burning from July through September in forested areas of the state. That means that campfires are allowed only in approved fire pits within designated state, county, municipal or other campgrounds. The use of gas and propane self-contained stoves and barbeques is allowed. For more information, see DNR’s website at http://1.usa.gov/jpjiZO .

WDFW’s own public conduct rules for wildlife areas and water access sites prohibit discharging of fireworks at any time.

For more information about fishing, hunting and wildlife viewing available this month, see the Weekender Regional Reports posted on WDFW’s website at http://wdfw.wa.gov/weekender/ . These reports are updated throughout the month to provide up-to-date information about recreational opportunities around the state.



 How much would they spend to TRY to close it?


 The new requirement, approved this year by the state Legislature, is designed to help keep 7 million acres of state recreational lands open after steep budget cuts.





 

[Elkrunner]

I'm thinking the brush pickers won't need it because they already have to have a special permit for picking brush.

What is a brush picker?  Is that similar to a carpet muncher?   

[bobcat]

I'm thinking the brush pickers won't need it because they already have to have a special permit for picking brush.

What is a brush picker?  Is that similar to a carpet muncher?   

You obviously haven't spent any time in Capitol Forest.