twisp rancher in trouble for killin 3 wolves !!!!!!

[jackmaster]

well houndhunter now that you have shown me the light, i can promise you this, i will not stand by and watch wolves do that to farmers and stuff, i though i couldnt tell you what i would do at the time because people on here really like to hammer a fella when he tells them exactly what he would do if given a run in with the mighty canis lupis

[KillerMiller]

In this week’s indictment, Bill White has also been charged with importing into the United States a moose and a deer from Canada in 2007, knowing that they had been killed illegally there.

Methow Valley News


Goes to show you if your willing to break the law for something you do not agree with (i.e. wolves) you might just poach a few more species we do CARE about or take part in the cover up.

[jackmaster]

well damn are you kidn me, well i guess the dude is just a low life then wolf i can understand especially if it was messn with his cattle, but damn really your dumb self went out and poached animals that we all have a soft spot for, well hopefully when he is in jail, maybe some big strong man will do a little poachn on this clowns virtues     

[Okano-gun]

He has also been charged by the state of Washington for taking a trophy mule deer out of season and hunting bears with hounds out of season and without permits.

[h20hunter]

Sounds like the list is getting long!

[AlpineMuley]

Only 50 more to go.   

[h20hunter]

Here is a link to the same publication. They posted some follow up. Looks like he has a record of poaching. Moose and deer in Canada, deer here in WA, running dogs for bear....with previous offenses and new allegations I would say this person is not doing sportsman any favors. Sad to see.

http://www.nwsportsmanmag.com/articles/2011/06/09/%E2%80%98A+Pattern+Of+Behavior%E2%80%99+In+White+Wolf+Case/

[BOWHUNTER45]

Here is a link to the same publication. They posted some follow up. Looks like he has a record of poaching. Moose and deer in Canada, deer here in WA, running dogs for bear....with previous offenses and new allegations I would say this person is not doing sportsman any favors. Sad to see.

http://www.nwsportsmanmag.com/articles/2011/06/09/%E2%80%98A+Pattern+Of+Behavior%E2%80%99+In+White+Wolf+Case/

Hey I urge everyone to go to the link that h20 has provided and leave a comment on what your thoughts might be about the wolve issue ..... it may make a big difference in the long run !! thanks john

[h20hunter]

Kind of a thought here and it may have been mentioned in other threads. I think one of the worst things that can happen if you are on either side, pro/anti, of the wolf debate is poaching. It does no good for the sportsman since it shows complete disgregard for game laws and restrictions. I would guess that for every poached wolf the state could have made a case for X number of tags available for the general public. What else is bad is that for every wolf poached you give the antis a ton more of media coverage showing that sporstman are the bad guys.

Does that make sense or am I way off base?

[rasbo]

Kind of a thought here and it may have been mentioned in other threads. I think one of the worst things that can happen if you are on either side, pro/anti, of the wolf debate is poaching. It does no good for the sportsman since it shows complete disgregard for game laws and restrictions. I would guess that for every poached wolf the state could have made a case for X number of tags available for the general public. What else is bad is that for every wolf poached you give the antis a ton more of media coverage showing that sporstman are the bad guys.

Does that make sense or am I way off base?

yes it does,might also have some figure we need more wolves to account for such acts,SSS comments I believe hurt as much,and should be scrubed from the site.

[WAcoyotehunter]

Kind of a thought here and it may have been mentioned in other threads. I think one of the worst things that can happen if you are on either side, pro/anti, of the wolf debate is poaching. It does no good for the sportsman since it shows complete disgregard for game laws and restrictions. I would guess that for every poached wolf the state could have made a case for X number of tags available for the general public. What else is bad is that for every wolf poached you give the antis a ton more of media coverage showing that sporstman are the bad guys.

Does that make sense or am I way off base?

yes it does,might also have some figure we need more wolves to account for such acts,SSS comments I believe hurt as much,and should be scrubed from the site.

+1

[Skillet]

This guy's just a dirtbag poacher, plain and simple.  The fact that there were wolves involved seems to make a lot of the same folks who would normally want to hang him for *allegedly* poaching the deer and moose hold him up as a cult hero for "taking care of the problem" and look past that he's accused of poaching trophy deer in our state. 
In a few posts here, it is even alluded to that he shot the wolves in defense of his cattle.  To the best of my knowledge, he didn't even say he did that himself... let's not go ascribing some noble defense to his poaching that even he wouldn't claim.

[Machias]

How about we let the legal system work before we call them serial poachers.  They have not been convicted of anything.
 
The article is pretty revealing, 23 packs will be needed to achieve the 15 breeding pairs and if they den a foot inside BC or ID then they do not count towards the count.  It's amazing that they could not delist them based on an imaginay boundry line such as WY's border, but in the case of counting a breeding pair the line is just fine.  Also the part about they looked at the minority's (hunters and ranchers) view and disregarded them.

[Skillet]

True, they haven't been convicted yet.  There's a half-dozen threads here in the last year that says a cop should just shoot an obvious criminal and save the taxpayer the expense.  But all of the sudden, we want to give these obviously-guilty criminals the benefit of a fair trial so they may also get off on a technicality.

OJ didn't do it, either.

Get real, this guy and his pardners are dirtbag scofflaws.  The fact we have so many on here outwardly defending him through supposition and speculation is no better than guys like me who think his self-serving, boneheaded actions are taking us all back a notch in the good fight of trying to manage a pretty serious predator in Washington.

Why do you think he was shipping the pelt to Canada?  They can be sold up there... if he was just defending his herd, he would have done what he has every right to do - shoot the sumbitch and call the gamies to come pick him up.

[h20hunter]

I can't hold somebody as guilty if they are defending their livestock which is their way of making a living. I agree that the justification is there whether it be a wolf, cat, bear, whatever. However, there are still legal ways of eliminating problem animals. I think Skillet makes some good points. Bottom line is that for every wolf poached they will think they need another 20 alive to sustain popluations since there must be that many more unreported cases of poaching. Does not help management plans for anyone.