Hanford Bulls

[HairTrigger]

 :tung:lmfao disagree with treaties an our rights sounds racial to me lol an who wrote those treaties

[Yak-NDN]

It's a shame your the moderator for this site and you feel the way you do about Natives!!! 

Ummmmmm   who is coming at who now.   I have a feeling you just did what I described.  Pulling the race card Seriously?    You have no idea apparantly how I feel or who I am.   Go figure. 

Yak, would you like to talk to him?   You know where I am at at least I hope you do.   

Bone I take you as you don't like the rites that we have I don't think you wish bad on us but don't like what we can do and that is fine. You don't have to like it. Because of what allot of people say on this site and it slides it don't take much and Indians take what most of you say it into bashing. Because a few members all are considered Indian basher's. I think most all people on this site get a little worked up and say a few things they shouldn't I know I have.

[boneaddict]

Igotbigbulls, alot of that is because we all have one week in a year to hunt, or are forced into particular seasons which get shorter and shorter everyyear.  It also costs us a great deal of money.   Natives are not the only folks in the world steeped with tradition, and empty freezers.  Thats where we start to part ways.   We share a resource and whenever there is a perception that someone gets more....the flame is lit.   

Gas is poured onto this fire everytime something like Hanford comes up, or a truckload comes out of the Clockum filled with big bulls that one group is not allowed to hunt, or will spend their life waiting for a tag and spending tons of dollars when someone can drive in and shoot them up.

YES there are strong emotions involved.   YES we are probably at odds with it.   

added.....    Yep, I agree Yak. 

[igotbigbulls]

i do think its bashing. plain and outright. what ive seen from most state side "hunting" it goes both ways.

[Yak-NDN]

I made a deal with myself chief that I'd let you guys banter until page 40.  Then this one was going to be locked up and buried. 

Alll the big ones should be dead by now, so I doubt we'll be seeing anymore pics.

Then move it. Its kinda off the Topic anyway.

[igotbigbulls]

where are all these pics of truck loads of bulls at? its always all the negative stories with no proof. i get tired of reading the bashing stories of unethical hunting with no proof

[igotbigbulls]

if your spending so much money on the waiting for a tag to get a "trophy" to eat just by your meat. cheaper in the long run im sure

[trophyhunt]

It's a shame your the moderator for this site and you feel the way you do about Natives!!!

I think that he shares about 90% percent of the same thoughts towards natives than most of our members currently.  These feelings typically come from events and situations that we have all either been involved with or witnessed in our time in the field.  I welcome you to this site in hopes that you can bring a different perspective in hopes that some day we can all better understand each other.

Very well said. I concur.

What is a shame is the tribes right to do whatever in the woods.

[igotbigbulls]

such as?

[boneaddict]

Are you bashing me and my traditions now, or are traditions only reserved for the native.


I think he runnith off at the mouth too much as he obviously doesn't know much about me.   Black Angus eats just fine, and so does elk, moose, and deer and several other assorted critters.   

[HairTrigger]

move if you don't like it here so bad or save your money go on a guided hunt in Az or Ut you'd get better results the San Carlos or White Mountain Apaches have some nice bulls oh wait those are reservations my bad

[sirmissalot]

such as?

Such as someone posting pictures of a beautiful bull on federally protected lands that no one is supposed to be able to hunt and a native member walking up to it, killing it, and then getting to show it off to all his buddies and brag that he killed a huge bull. That is just one example, and a good one IMHO.

[igotbigbulls]

sorry bone. it actually really wasnt directed at you. just the comment about the truck loads of bulls. still yet to see proof. all im sayin.

[igotbigbulls]

ha. good stuff sirmissalot. no one. better find out where it was shot and who can and cant hunt where it was shot before you type.

[CedarPants]

For me personally (and I speak only for myself), it comes down to the manner in which one chooses to exercise their treaty rights.

If I come across someone packing out a quarter and they inform me they are with so and so tribe and they just shot a couple bulls and a cow for their family way up on yonder ridge .... I'd tell them congrats and would be more than willing to offer to help them with the pack out.  Someone willing to put in that much work for their family is alright by me.

If I'm nearly run off the road by a group from so and so tribe driving a blue Tacoma at nearly 50mph in the Manastash during muzzy season and pull over to let them fly past (dusting me out in the process) only to come around a corner 5 minutes later to see the truck blocking the road and all of them running around with loaded rifles pointing every which direction but safe while they chase the buck they just saw (while one of them comes over to show me his .325 round and tells me its 'his baby' and tells me his grandson shot 5 bulls last year and is going for his 2nd buck this year) ..... well, I don't have much respect for that.

At the end of the day the treaty isn't going anywhere.  I don't have to agree with certain aspects of it, but I will certainly respect those doing good by it in an ethcial manner  .... just as I won't respect those that give it a bad name