Hunting With Suppressor in WA

[FALFire]

rbros,

That sonic crack is exactly why I have hung on to my 300 Fireball. Subsonic in that baby will do a number on coyotes out to 100 yards  Especially on doubles!!

[Mookie]

It's your rant but I don't agree that we need to kill more Does. we will need them to keep population up.

considering yo live 300 miles away from me there would seem to be a significant difference in doe population. Over here they are tiny, extremely well versed in the art of reproduction, and are a pest, plus they do tons of damage to cars and crops. And I would love to use a suppressor on them as they are paranoid

[demontang]

a supressed rifle can be a great tool if used right and for me it would save my hearing out coyote hunting cause my k16 is freaking loud!!!

[addicted]

a supressed rifle can be a great tool if used right and for me it would save my hearing out coyote hunting cause my k16 is freaking loud!!!

thats what i'm thinking. I'm getting closer and closer to a primary rifle which i would think, that if i surpressed it could save a lot of hearing from those spontanious hunting shots. it may not make a difference in a few years, but in 30 years probably.

[GEARHEAD]

WELL.......I figure i would atleast like to get started with the stamp application, i cant find how to proceed. do i buy a suppressor then apply, or apply first or what. where do i go to start the application process. all i can find on the web is people saying you need a 200 dollar stamp, but i cant find anything on how to do this/where to go?

[FALFire]

There is a couple of ways in which to do this. One is to locate a suppressor dealer and fill out all applicable forms, you will also need to provide 2 each passport photos and 2 sets of finger prints, pay the dealer $200 for the tax stamp and the cost of the can, several hundred $$$ and wait several weeks or months to get the approval. Once you get the approval you may pick it up at the dealer.

The other option I am aware of is to go through a TRUST, you will still be required to jump through the hoops, photos, prints blah, blah but the Sheriff or Chief Law Enforcement of your county or area will not know you have the suppressor at least that is from what I'm hearing from some. Rbros should be able to fill you in on all the legal stuff and get you steered in the right direction.

There are some benefits, so to speak, going the trust route. I'm told you can always add to your list of suppressors by simply adding them to the trust plus you can name a beneficiary in the event you die. If you choose the individual plan, then you need to go through the entire waiting process all over again for each can. Each individual method requires the surrender of the can upon your demise.

This is how I understand this to work and I'll be going the Trust method.

[GEARHEAD]

Thanks FAL, right now i am hoping to simply apply for the stamp, and pick a can later. i hope its possible. not ready for a can right now.

[rbros]

A trust is definitely the way to go.  Its not necessary, but it sometimes help speed the process.  Unfortunately, you can't just apply for the tax stamp with out purchasing the suppressor.  On the Form 4 that gets sent into ATF, there needs to be a serial number for the suppressor.  Wait time right now is 3-4 months average.

[whacker1]

A trust is definitely the way to go.  Its not necessary, but it sometimes help speed the process.  Unfortunately, you can't just apply for the tax stamp with out purchasing the suppressor.  On the Form 4 that gets sent into ATF, there needs to be a serial number for the suppressor.  Wait time right now is 3-4 months average.

Is the $200 I saw mentioned earlier a one time fee or an annual fee?

[rbros]

The $200 is a 1 time fee per supressor.  If its not in a trust, then if something happens to you, it has to be destroyed.

[whacker1]

The $200 is a 1 time fee per supressor.  If its not in a trust, then if something happens to you, it has to be destroyed.

How does this trust work?  Is it the same as a trust like you would use for any other estate planning function?  Or is this something completely different?

Thank you for answering my questions.....It is fascinating to me. 

[Mookie]

you have more than one person on the trust, all that is required is they be legally allowed to purchase firearms, and if something happens to you it goes to them, and so forth. As was explained to me by the local dealer, all it takes is money. Spend some time studying the differences between trust and you local sheriff, some choose to go the fingerprinting way still because it works for them, and it might work for you. It's about as difficult as getting your CCP, just a lot more costly.

Go to either All American Arms and talk to Terry or Sharp shooters indoor range, wed- sat, and ask them. I prefer Sharp Shooters because they take the time and explain everything and don't mind questions. They quoted me $100 for them to do the trust (you can do it free if you have the time and/or energy) $200 tax stamp, and the cost of the suppressor. I won't go to AAA because he couldn't be bothered on a non busy day to even answer simple questions.

[FALFire]

Mookie,

Sorry to hear you did not do well with Terry, he and I spoke at length about cans the other day and he showed me several varieties that he had in stock. His wife was very helpful as well. We spoke for a good two hours and he was very willing to answer all of my questions, maybe it was a good day to speak with him, perhaps I caught him on a good day  In any case he still has a very strong passion for his business. I would recommend anyone wanting to deal with him regarding cans to do so.

[FALFire]

The $200 is a 1 time fee per supressor.  If its not in a trust, then if something happens to you, it has to be destroyed.

How does this trust work?  Is it the same as a trust like you would use for any other estate planning function?  Or is this something completely different?

Thank you for answering my questions.....It is fascinating to me.

Whacker,

Trusts come in a variety of sorts, but you may only need a "Property Trust" with you being the trustee and naming one or several of your family members or friends as beneficiaries. You can add and delete beneficiaries as time goes on and describe which ones get what, of your listed properties upon your death. As Rbros stated, the BATF wants the suppressor back for destruction after you go away unless the Trust has a beneficiary named. Plus simply adding a second or third suppressor without all the hassle is a huge leap in the right direction. Unfortunately you will still need to purchase/apply for any subsequent tax stamps at $200 each for every suppressor you add to your list as each can will come with a serial number engraved on it.

[addicted]

If one were to acquire a suppressor through other means and stamp a serial number on it, could one add it to the trust?