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hunting taylor mountain forrest?
« on: August 20, 2011, 12:27:54 PM »
ive had alot of conflicting info on hunting taylor mountain forrest.. first i was informed its not a problem by a wdfw and now someone who claims to be an off duty king county sheriff tells me its a county park and its not allowed and left a sticker on my windsheild in my complete vision path unlike a usual application by a sheriff.. :dunno:

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Re: hunting taylor mountain forrest?
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2011, 12:46:38 PM »
careful with specific areas on here, unless you want to see a thousand hunters every time you go out

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Re: hunting taylor mountain forrest?
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2011, 05:10:06 PM »
 :dunno: I would check with All authorities before hunting a new area that I may not be sure about. Dont know the area your talking about but a few phone calls to the proper authorities to make sure is a whole lot better then a ticket. Whats the old saying about an ounce of prevention???? :o
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Re: hunting taylor mountain forrest?
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2011, 11:45:19 PM »
ive had alot of conflicting info on hunting taylor mountain forrest.. first i was informed its not a problem by a wdfw and now someone who claims to be an off duty king county sheriff tells me its a county park and its not allowed and left a sticker on my windsheild in my complete vision path unlike a usual application by a sheriff.. :dunno:

Taylor Mountain Forest is owned by King County. You need to contact them. If I remember correctly it is NOT a county PARK but rather a county FOREST. There was a time when you could hunt King County Forests, never been able to hunt county parks. However there has been some pressure to close all King County owned forests to hunting. You need to contact King County.

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Re: hunting taylor mountain forrest?
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2011, 08:04:06 PM »
thats what im saying damn hippy hikers but i keep gettin the run around from the county on getting back to me.. does anyone have a contact number or website link??? :bash:

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Re: hunting taylor mountain forrest?
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2011, 08:24:55 PM »
thats what im saying damn hippy hikers but i keep gettin the run around from the county on getting back to me.. does anyone have a contact number or website link??? :bash:

No info on the website about hunting

Call Kathy Nygard: 206-296-8687

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Re: hunting taylor mountain forrest?
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2011, 08:35:30 PM »
does anyone have a contact number or website link???

Page 32 indicates that hunting is not allowed on Taylor Mountain

http://your.kingcounty.gov/dnrp/library/2004/KCR1632/taylor-mt-public-use-plan.pdf

Took about thirty seconds on Google  :bash:

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Re: hunting taylor mountain forrest?
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2011, 08:37:22 PM »
Here is the contact info for the recreation dept.

For questions about the Parks and Recreation Division, please contact Kathy Nygard, Assistant to the Director.

Parks and Recreation Div.
201 S. Jackson St., # 700
Seattle, WA 98104
206-296-8687
TTY: 711


http://your.kingcounty.gov/dnrp/library/2004/KCR1632/taylor-mt-public-use-plan.pdf


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Re: hunting taylor mountain forrest?
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2011, 08:38:23 PM »
Well looks like i was a little slow.  :chuckle:

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Re: hunting taylor mountain forrest?
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2011, 08:50:51 PM »
does anyone have a contact number or website link???

Page 32 indicates that hunting is not allowed on Taylor Mountain

http://your.kingcounty.gov/dnrp/library/2004/KCR1632/taylor-mt-public-use-plan.pdf

Took about thirty seconds on Google  :bash:

Need to look again.

Page 4: "No firearms are allowed on Taylor Mountain Forest or Cedar River Watershed lands (hunting and fishing on Tiger Mountain State Forest is subject Washington State Department of Fish and Wildlife rules and regulations)"
Page 32: "Hunting at Tiger Mountain State Forest is regulated by the Washington State Department of Fish and Wildlife."

Sounds like if you are bow hunting you should be good to go. If you are using a firearm then you cannot hunt the forest.

Also, here is a map of the forest to make sure that is where you actually are: http://your.kingcounty.gov/dnrp/library/2003/kcr1248/figure1.pdf

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Re: hunting taylor mountain forrest?
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2011, 08:52:53 PM »
You are right, I miss-stated that.  No guns

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Re: hunting taylor mountain forrest?
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2011, 09:27:05 PM »
I would still call to verify that hunting is legal there, it is hard to tell if it is considered a natural land area. if it is you have to follow these rules for their natural areas. Looking at th designated usages they only list Hiking, mountain biking, and horsebacking.

King County natural area rules as described on signage:

This site contains sensitive areas.
Please help protect this fagile resource by observing the following:

King County code chapter 7.12 - rules for use of facility

No hunting or shooting.
Overnight camping and/or campfires prohibited.
Please don't litter. Pack out your trash.
Cutting, picking or destruction of trees, plant life or property is prohibited.
No motorized vehicles.
Please stay on trail.
Unauthorized trail construction prohibited.
Removal of any County property is prohibited.
Alcoholic beverages prohibited.
All fireworks prohibited.
Please keep pets on leash.
This area closed after dark.
Enjoy your visit.






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Re: hunting taylor mountain forrest?
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2011, 10:02:40 AM »
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You are right, I miss-stated that.  No guns

While King County can regulate whether or not to allow shooting or hunting on their property, they cannot regulate the "carrying" of firearms because of the WA State preemptions laws.
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Re: hunting taylor mountain forrest?
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2011, 02:39:52 PM »
This question has been bugging me for sometime, now.  Last year I called the county and got the run around with a final 'no archery hunting' answer.  So, I Just called the number the bigtex provided, which is KC Parks and Recreation.  Same number that kenbell27 referenced.  They said no-go for hunting in the Taylor Mountain forest based on section 7.12.360 of Title 7 ( http://your.kingcounty.gov/mkcc/clerk/code/10_Title_7.pdf ).

7.12.630 Firearms, weapons. No person except duly authorized law enforcement personnel shall possess a bow and arrow, crossbow, or air or gas weapon in a county park. No person shall discharge across, in, or into any King County park area a firearm, bow and arrow, crossbow, air or gas weapon, or any device capable of injuring or killing any person or animal, or damaging or destroying any public or private property.
Provided that:
Where the department for good cause has authorized in writing a special recreational activity upon finding that it is not inconsistent with King County park use this section shall not apply. (Ord. 12003 § 17, 1995*: Ord. 8166 § 8, 1987: Ord. 6798 § 63, 1984).

They insisted that this applies to the KC forests such as Taylor Mountain and all KC DNR property (i.e. property that the country owns).  Looking at http://www.kingcounty.gov/recreation/parks/trails/backcountry/islandcenterforest/deer-hunt-faq.aspx there was a hunting provision for Island Center Forest that was pulled based on community response.
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Re: hunting taylor mountain forrest?
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2011, 03:34:10 PM »
To clarify, there is an entry to Taylor Mt off the Issaquah Hobart Road (south of the Summit). It is my understanding you can NOT hunt this area.
There is also an enterance on the summit of Hwy 18 behind a gate that is closer to the Summit of Taylor mountain. This is not a state gate but it is my understanding you CAN hunt this area as you pass onto DNR land. Additonaly, if you go one gate further north towards i-90 there is a DNR gate that says hunting is allowed per WDFW regulations and that is the same general area.
Am I wrong or what exactly are you guys concluding about the Taylor Mt summitt area?
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Re: hunting taylor mountain forrest?
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2011, 04:30:22 PM »
I think the conclusion is that the state DNR land (accessible at the summit) is allowable within gmu454.  This is also accessible further north. 

GoHunt (on wdfw.wa.gov) shows the landowner boundaries in question pretty clearly. 


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Re: hunting taylor mountain forrest?
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2011, 06:02:49 PM »
thanks man thats what i wanted to hear.. this is how we learn.. and its only alittle further away but more along the lines of what i was looking for in an area to hunt.. :yeah:

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Re: hunting taylor mountain forrest?
« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2011, 10:59:16 PM »
To clarify, there is an entry to Taylor Mt off the Issaquah Hobart Road (south of the Summit). It is my understanding you can NOT hunt this area.
There is also an enterance on the summit of Hwy 18 behind a gate that is closer to the Summit of Taylor mountain. This is not a state gate but it is my understanding you CAN hunt this area as you pass onto DNR land. Additonaly, if you go one gate further north towards i-90 there is a DNR gate that says hunting is allowed per WDFW regulations and that is the same general area.
Am I wrong or what exactly are you guys concluding about the Taylor Mt summitt area?

This topic has been on here many times, you can hunt west of hwy 18 with archery, muzzle or shotgun in certain areas only it is in a firearm restricted area. East of 18 past Tiger summit (going north) to I-90 youre good to go with modern firearm. You can hunt back to the Cedar River Water Shed which is east of 18 and south of 90.

Better yet there is a crap load of land to hunt north of 90 and east of 90/18 junction which is in unit 460, good timber co land.
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Re: hunting taylor mountain forrest?
« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2011, 02:29:30 PM »
To clarify, there is an entry to Taylor Mt off the Issaquah Hobart Road (south of the Summit). It is my understanding you can NOT hunt this area.
There is also an enterance on the summit of Hwy 18 behind a gate that is closer to the Summit of Taylor mountain. This is not a state gate but it is my understanding you CAN hunt this area as you pass onto DNR land. Additonaly, if you go one gate further north towards i-90 there is a DNR gate that says hunting is allowed per WDFW regulations and that is the same general area.
Am I wrong or what exactly are you guys concluding about the Taylor Mt summitt area?

This topic has been on here many times, you can hunt west of hwy 18 with archery, muzzle or shotgun in certain areas only it is in a firearm restricted area. East of 18 past Tiger summit (going north) to I-90 youre good to go with modern firearm. You can hunt back to the Cedar River Water Shed which is east of 18 and south of 90.

Better yet there is a crap load of land to hunt north of 90 and east of 90/18 junction which is in unit 460, good timber co land.

Bowman,
Nobody was talking about which weapons you can use. There is a mix of private, state, and county land in the area, some allow hunting and others don't. That is what this thread was about, not which weapons you can use.

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Re: hunting taylor mountain forrest?
« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2011, 07:19:00 AM »
There is park land there and there is huntable land there. I live close and have hunted Taylor since the mid 80s.
You can look it up on the county web site http://www5.kingcounty.gov/parcelviewer/viewer/kingcounty/viewer.asp and you can start with the parcel viewer here.
You can identify all owners of the parcels. There is mixed ownership all over the mountain. The park area is inside the gate where Iss-Hobart Rd intersect. You don't want to hunt there.
Other areas up the mountain are not park land but they are mixed ownership and not all owners want hunting on their lands. The private owners of the other parcels are mostly corporations and LLCs. Companies like Fruit Growers Assn has been neutral in the past and they are based in CA.
The land changes hands on occasion so it is up to us to do our research.
If you call Fish and Wildlife or the local Sheriff, you will get mixed info from them. They don't all know the rules and laws of that area (and many areas for that matter). You will get the run-around and get disgusted with improper info.
The signs on the gate tell it very well - it is regulated by our hunting regulations. I would start with the regs and identify where you can use a gun and where the rifle restrictions are.
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