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Re: Opening a can of worms (Team Mossback)
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2011, 04:03:43 PM »
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Re: Opening a can of worms (Team Mossback)
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2011, 04:05:14 PM »
I hold them to higher expectations than most.  They have a reputation for killing big bulls, and having altercations.  Zero tolerance policy in my book on illegal activity and harassment.  I hope they realize the number of 400" bulls in the Blues isn't what it appears.  With any scouting at all, they should be able to figure that out.  Problem I see is, if they do find the bull they want, I don't think they will let anything get in their way, and I highly doubt they will have a second or third bull that interests them. :twocents:

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Re: Opening a can of worms (Team Mossback)
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2011, 04:41:48 PM »
I haven't seen them do anything yet. I don't like to hear stories on what they have done. I think the state should say the winner with the tag, will use a outfitter that has been here and is in good standings if they want a guided hunt. Also I don't think any of these tags should be in the record books because it shouldn't be a "fair chase" if you are the only person who can hunt them.

I have said it in another post there are some great outfitters in the state already that know the areas, the owners, and have the community respect. Team Mossback should stay the Hell out of Washington!!!! They have other states that they hunt in and maybe those states are started to get pissed at them for doing the stuff that they do.

As far as if I get stopped by them and they try to pull a gun on me  :bash:  I would ask them if they own the land and the public road then I would continue on my way passed the block. If they get aggressive then 911 will be called. If they are on my land or want access to my land it will be a very quick f**** you and good day. :chuckle:

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Re: Opening a can of worms (Team Mossback)
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2011, 04:48:50 PM »
I don't believe a landowner would be in violation of any law for not allowing someone to trespass in order to retrieve a dead animal.

That is correct.  Bigtex has pointed that out on the board before......a landowner would not get charged with anything by not allowing someone retrieve game.
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Re: Opening a can of worms (Team Mossback)
« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2011, 04:58:50 PM »
All of their 400 class bulls are pushed to the hunter by 15-20 people, they place the hunter at the bottom of draw or canyon. then put so many people at the top and sides the bulls have no place to go but down straight to the hunter.

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Re: Opening a can of worms (Team Mossback)
« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2011, 04:59:16 PM »
Treat everyone the same.  No commercial operator's permit on the federal land?  Bust 'em.  Trespassing?  Bust 'em.  Harassing hunters?  Bust 'em.  BUT if they are getting permission on the private land (paid for or otherwise), and aren't breaking any laws, best of luck.  I have NO problem with landowners who sell or restrict access, especially when it vastly increases their tolerance for supporting the public wildlife on their private property. 
 
On a side note, based on my past experience with nonresident hunters from all over the country, UT has more than their share of the unfriendliest, potentially hostile hunters around.  I suspect Team Mossbacks' antics are much exaggerated, as it would be seriously dangerous to cross too many Utah resident hunters - especially if they have a quality buck or bull permit.
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Re: Opening a can of worms (Team Mossback)
« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2011, 05:06:27 PM »
I would say if someone shot a bull on your property illegally and the property owner did not retrieve it then it is not the property owner's liability.  Prosecute the tresspasser and don't worry about wastage.  Sometimes things happen and need to be delt with.

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Re: Opening a can of worms (Team Mossback)
« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2011, 05:16:26 PM »
I would say if someone shot a bull on your property illegally and the property owner did not retrieve it then it is not the property owner's liability.  Prosecute the tresspasser and don't worry about wastage.  Sometimes things happen and need to be delt with.

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Alot of landowners in the area do turn in tresspassers and could careless that you think you should be able to "retrieve" your animal.

And said landowners know the WDFW officer in the area and don't get harassed for "wastage."

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Re: Opening a can of worms (Team Mossback)
« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2011, 07:07:38 PM »
MANNNNN alot of you haters in here sound like a bunch of old ladies. what next? you gonna start in on our native friends next? tell me where does all the money go that the tag holder spends for that tag? i know here in oregon it goes right back into the managing of our game which helps alot. i hope they get the bull their looking for.

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Re: Opening a can of worms (Team Mossback)
« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2011, 07:25:25 PM »
i love seing the pics and hearing the storys. but the reason this unit and others do in this day and-age is because people put it in magazines, and on the net. loose lips sink ships. i have been trying for this permit for 12 yrs and i will probably draw it when it becomes the quality of the margaret unit, the other so called money tag . it is ok to tell storys and show pics, but why does everyone want there 15 minutes of fame?  :twocents: :twocents: :twocents: THANKS FOR SHARING J

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Re: Opening a can of worms (Team Mossback)
« Reply #25 on: September 07, 2011, 07:44:26 PM »
 :cryriver:  If there not doing anything wrong then there's nothing that can be done.  I get tired of hearing BS all the time about Team Mossback.  If they were doing half the things that people claim they were doing they would be out of business.
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Re: Opening a can of worms (Team Mossback)
« Reply #26 on: September 07, 2011, 07:49:34 PM »
MANNNNN alot of you haters in here sound like a bunch of old ladies. what next? you gonna start in on our native friends next? tell me where does all the money go that the tag holder spends for that tag? i know here in oregon it goes right back into the managing of our game which helps alot. i hope they get the bull their looking for.

We are not complaining about the Govenors tag, The money for that does go to help with the wildlife what we are talking about is TEAM MOSSBACK.  How they hunt is what I have a problem with..
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Re: Opening a can of worms (Team Mossback)
« Reply #27 on: September 07, 2011, 08:03:30 PM »
MANNNNN alot of you haters in here sound like a bunch of old ladies. what next? you gonna start in on our native friends next? tell me where does all the money go that the tag holder spends for that tag? i know here in oregon it goes right back into the managing of our game which helps alot. i hope they get the bull their looking for.

We are not complaining about the Govenors tag, The money for that does go to help with the wildlife what we are talking about is TEAM MOSSBACK.  How they hunt is what I have a problem with..

this is WA money goes to the general fund and then is spent however the governor sees fit.....anyone acting like a *censored* on public lands deserves a hazing by locals...oh crap I just said what I thought inside my head, with my outside voice

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they bring money to the local economy and notoriety to the herd you all should bow down and kiss their feeties and thank them for their contributions.....is that more PC :dunno:

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Re: Opening a can of worms (Team Mossback)
« Reply #28 on: September 07, 2011, 08:57:31 PM »
Thats all you got Phool, No input?

I just got back on this site after more than a year, I think the admin team would appreciate me keeping my opinions to myself for a while. ;)
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Re: Opening a can of worms (Team Mossback)
« Reply #29 on: September 07, 2011, 08:59:33 PM »
Thats all you got Phool, No input?

I just got back on this site after more than a year, I think the admin team would appreciate me keeping my opinions to myself for a while. ;)


That's not true. It's fine to state your opinions, as long as they don't differ from mine.   :)

 


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