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Re: collared female and three pups north of ellensburg
« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2011, 06:54:35 AM »
Good thing they were able to save the dog.  I think this latest wolf attack is a taste of things to come....
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Re: collared female and three pups north of ellensburg
« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2011, 07:14:14 AM »
man thats sickening, you have a third generation farmer struggling to make a living and they have to figure out the compensation? if you ask me if he cant shoot the attacker then he should get at least double head price! i have seen tough hounds fight yotes and win but these canadian wolves are big fast strong animals i am not sure of a dog breed that can compete? even a big pit/ american bull dog/ shepared is really not a fair match and when its a pack your talking adding easily $20,000 in training, purchase, and care to the hearders overhead by adding a pack of large gaurd dogs.

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Re: collared female and three pups north of ellensburg
« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2011, 07:16:25 AM »
Good thing they were able to save the dog.  I think this latest wolf attack is a taste of things to come....

But according to wolf luvers on here wolves only attack the sick animals. Maybe the dog was sick? :tung:

More of the sama attacks on pets and livestock if *censored*s in WA get their way and more wolves are introduced

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Re: collared female and three pups north of ellensburg
« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2011, 07:25:09 AM »
HERE YOU GO BOYS!

http://www.king5.com/news/Wolves-Visit-Blewett-Pass-Sheep-Bite-Herd-Dog-129767188.html

I look forward to some "kick butt hunting there" because of the wolves

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 Hey guys, let's blame the wolves (or any animal) for poor management by Washington state.

 Wolves, coyotes, cougars, bears, they're all fine to have in an area. And good for it. We don't need people trapping beavers (and paying them to do so) because the cougars have a taste for beaver and do it for us. The wolves will take the weak and sick giving us some absolutely kickbutt trophy deer and elk in the long run. All around good stuff. 


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Re: collared female and three pups north of ellensburg
« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2011, 07:45:05 AM »
That's to bad he had the perfect opportunity to eliminate the alpha female as it was attacking his herd and dog. Glad the dog will be ok.

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Re: collared female and three pups north of ellensburg
« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2011, 08:02:07 AM »
man thats sickening, you have a third generation farmer struggling to make a living and they have to figure out the compensation? if you ask me if he cant shoot the attacker then he should get at least double head price! i have seen tough hounds fight yotes and win but these canadian wolves are big fast strong animals i am not sure of a dog breed that can compete? even a big pit/ american bull dog/ shepared is really not a fair match and when its a pack your talking adding easily $20,000 in training, purchase, and care to the hearders overhead by adding a pack of large gaurd dogs.

Here's the kicker, by saying a cougar killed the sheep which then supposedly attracted the wolves, there is a good chance there will be no compensation. This ploy was used in the Rocky Mountain states. The wolfers say they support funding for ranching losses, but many ranchers are unable to collect due to technicalities and to investigators who do not want their precious fuzzy wolves to take the blame for killing livestock.

Do you actually believe a cougar killed the sheep? I honestly don't know, it depends who investigated the kill and if they were honest about it or not, but some of these people in WDFW are wolfers who do not want wolves to look bad, I give it a 50/50 chance that this whole statement stinks.  8)

There are ways to tell whether it was a cougar kill or a wolf kill, the two animals kill entirely different, I would liove to see the photos of the kill.
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Re: collared female and three pups north of ellensburg
« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2011, 08:09:44 AM »


Here's the kicker, by saying a cougar killed the sheep which then supposedly attracted the wolves, there is a good chance there will be no compensation. This ploy was used in the Rocky Mountain states. The wolfers say they support funding for ranching losses, but many ranchers are unable to collect due to technicalities and to investigators who do not want their precious fuzzy wolves to take the blame for killing livestock.

Do you actually believe a cougar killed the sheep? I honestly don't know, it depends who investigated the kill and if they were honest about it or not, but some of these people in WDFW are wolfers who do not want wolves to look bad, I give it a 50/50 chance that this whole statement stinks.  8)

There are ways to tell whether it was a cougar kill or a wolf kill, the two animals kill entirely different, I would liove to see the photos of the kill.
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Re: collared female and three pups north of ellensburg
« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2011, 09:09:34 AM »
Just cant understand why they would lie about the wolves intentins :dunno: Dont the *censored*s know that someone is going to die from future wolve ecnoutners, and how many family's are going to grieve over there lost dogs, how many familys are going to have to worry about there future when there livestock is preyed upon, and lies will prevent them from being compensated :dunno:
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Re: collared female and three pups north of ellensburg
« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2011, 09:19:55 AM »
man thats sickening, you have a third generation farmer struggling to make a living and they have to figure out the compensation? if you ask me if he cant shoot the attacker then he should get at least double head price! i have seen tough hounds fight yotes and win but these canadian wolves are big fast strong animals i am not sure of a dog breed that can compete? even a big pit/ american bull dog/ shepared is really not a fair match and when its a pack your talking adding easily $20,000 in training, purchase, and care to the hearders overhead by adding a pack of large gaurd dogs.

Here's the kicker, by saying a cougar killed the sheep which then supposedly attracted the wolves, there is a good chance there will be no compensation. This ploy was used in the Rocky Mountain states. The wolfers say they support funding for ranching losses, but many ranchers are unable to collect due to technicalities and to investigators who do not want their precious fuzzy wolves to take the blame for killing livestock.

Do you actually believe a cougar killed the sheep? I honestly don't know, it depends who investigated the kill and if they were honest about it or not, but some of these people in WDFW are wolfers who do not want wolves to look bad, I give it a 50/50 chance that this whole statement stinks.  8)

There are ways to tell whether it was a cougar kill or a wolf kill, the two animals kill entirely different, I would liove to see the photos of the kill.

felines typically strangle crushing windpipes and canines disembowel or hamstring two opposite ends of the animal...this is basic animal biology stuff anyone with a tv can learn watching any African animal show  :chuckle: seriously I know plenty of first graders who could tell you that...its not rocket science :dunno:

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Re: collared female and three pups north of ellensburg
« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2011, 09:29:13 AM »
felines typically strangle crushing windpipes and canines disembowel or hamstring two opposite ends of the animal...this is basic animal biology stuff anyone with a tv can learn

Unless you watch this film, where they show examples of wolf killed livestock with windpipes removed

http://cryingwolfmovie.com/

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Re: collared female and three pups north of ellensburg
« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2011, 04:26:34 PM »
they could not really "investigate" the killed animal because the sheep herder did what sheep herders do when they find killed/dead sheep.... skinned it out to save the hide and let the dogs eat a free meal. sorry boys, dont worry though im sure my uncle will have many more sheep for them to investigate soon.
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Re: collared female and three pups north of ellensburg
« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2011, 04:30:59 PM »
i think you ment blewett pass(on US 97)   bluet pass is by mt baker.

Now this is really funny.  Sorry to threadjack, but I can't help myself.  Bigginner correcting someone elses spelling just has me laughing........ :chuckle:
hell I cant laugh at anyone for spelling because I seem to have the samre problem ..... :chuckle: :chuckle: :yike:

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Re: collared female and three pups north of ellensburg
« Reply #28 on: September 14, 2011, 04:38:27 PM »
they could not really "investigate" the killed animal because the sheep herder did what sheep herders do when they find killed/dead sheep.... skinned it out to save the hide and let the dogs eat a free meal. sorry boys, dont worry though im sure my uncle will have many more sheep for them to investigate soon.

I hope they move on so he doesn't suffer additional losses.  :tup:
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Re: collared female and three pups north of ellensburg
« Reply #29 on: September 14, 2011, 05:12:53 PM »
they do not stay in the same place for very long, they are constantly moving. yet another lie told tot he public about livestock damaging the public lands with grazing rights... when the sheep have been through an area it either looks better then it did or you couldnt even tell the difference. they bust up the underbrush, keep grass down and all together make a better "habitat" for wild life. not to mention is dramatically reduces the chance of wild fires.... im about sick of hearing the lame excuses of these liberal tree hugging know it all's commenting on the story! that is my aunt, uncle and two cousins int he video. i have worked side by side with the sheep herder int he video and it is literally ball busting work! they know nothing about anything, and they still act like they know it all.... frustrating!!  :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: makes me think bad thoughts haha  :mgun:
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