Differences if switching between #11 to Musket caps

[Morse_FJ40]

Wondering boys if any of you have made the switch to musket caps and had any better results??

thanks
Ryan

[10thmountainarcher]

I noticed a HUGE difference, I shoot a TC Black Diamond. When I first purchased it, it had the #11 on it so I shot it for a while.  After about 3 missfires my old man told me that I should use the musket cap because you get a lot more "flame" to the powder.  If you look at the holes you will notice the musket cap is way larger.  I have not had one miss fire since I switched over to musket.  I will never shoot #11's again.

[JPhelps]

I agree that musket caps are better.  More consitent powder burn and more accurate.

[buckhorn2]

What do you have to do to switch to musket caps and where can you find them

[Rick]

What do you have to do to switch to musket caps and where can you find them

Change to a larger nipple required with the musket caps. Musket caps are generally found right next to the #11 in every store I've been to.

[Sabotloader]

Wondering boys if any of you have made the switch to musket caps and had any better results??

thanks
Ryan

It really is an easy switch... and I went the opposite direction ages ago.  The number 11 offers some little things that i do not think you can get from a Musket cap.  When I purchased my first White Rifle - Doc White and I had this very discussion... He encouraged the use of #11's as more reliable in the extreme conditions.

One thing if you are shooting substitute powders make sure that you get the #11 Magnum caps not the normal #11.  Mag caps burn at the same speed and same temperature as do Musket caps.  One thing you have to be careful with is that the cap must be pressed on the post - it can not just be placed on the post - so that pretty much means you need to use a good capper.

Other than that it is pretty much a simple thing to purchase a Musket nipple for your type of rifle (they come in many different thread patterns) pull the #11 nipple out and place the musket nipple in place... Get some caps and you are reasy to shoot...

[Heredoggydoggy]

I swiched last year.  Main thing I noticed is that they are a lot easier to handle with cold fingers.

[Morse_FJ40]

My bighorn shot fine lastyear with #11's. What did your bullet do? Shoot higher with musket caps.....

[Sabotloader]

I swiched last year.  Main thing I noticed is that they are a lot easier to handle with cold fingers.

Have you ever looked in to the use of a capper? for either #11's or musket caps...

In this picture you can see a #11 capper in the bckground - they are really compact, quicker than your fingers and easy to use.

[huntitup]

sabotloader are the #11 cci magnums hotter than the dynamit nobel 1075 plus from germany

[Sabotloader]

sabotloader are the #11 cci magnums hotter than the dynamit nobel 1075 plus from germany

No - I think the Nobles are hotter and fit the nipple posts tighter - so more of the heat goes down through the nipple to the powder.  I also use 3f powder to insure that the powder gets right under the end of the nipple...

[huntitup]

how about the nobles compared to a musket cap

[Sabotloader]

how about the nobles compared to a musket cap

I do not have a copy of the email any longer but I asked CCI the very question, what is the temperature difference in a #11 Mag and CCI Musket cap?  Their reply was they burn virtually at the same temperature...    This does not include the #11 regular cap...

I also believe that the Nobel 1075+ cap may be a bit hotter than American #11 mags - but I have no proof of that.  I use Nobles hunting without a second thought and shoot CCI's at paper and in warmer weather.

The Nobel 1075+, CCI #11 Mag, Remington Hot Cap all produce the same amount of heat as a Musket cap. i also have to add, while the the mag caps burn at the same speed and produces the same amount of heat as a musket cap - the musket cap will burn a bit longer because it has a larger storage area.  But if everything works equally and the powder is ignited without a hang fire how long the cap burns should not be a factor...

The ability of the #11 to work well is dertimined by how well it fits the post and IF you press the cap on the post snugly.  if a hammer hits the pressed cap MOST of the heat and fire will go directly down the nipple to the powder.  If the cap is loose on the nipple two bad things will/can happen...

1. misfire - hang fire - no fire
2. a lot of the cap power will be wasted out the sides of the cap and down along the outside of the nipple post - robbing you of heat and flame.

Nipple fit - important...

[jagermiester]

I was thinking about making the switch to musket caps and heard that you may give up some accuracy making the switch does anyone know is there any truth to this?

[D360]

massive difference. stalked a cow to 10 feet last year shot and cap misfired and she jumped up and took off before I could recap. now I have switched to archery so I only have myself to blame when the animals run away unharmed.

[Sabotloader]

I was thinking about making the switch to musket caps and heard that you may give up some accuracy making the switch does anyone know is there any truth to this?

To be honest with you I have never seen that... but I can not say that I have actually sat down and tested it.  I know my hunting partner shoots a TC Hawkin 54 cal and he made the switch from musket to #11 mag in the middles of season when we found the Nobel 1075+ cap and it did not change a thing on his gun...

[10thmountainarcher]

Never used the #11 Mag's probably was a lot of my problem with misfires.  I've never had a problem with the musket caps, but if I do I will definitely put the #11 nipple back on and try out the Mag's.  As far as accuracy goes, NO difference what so ever.  My black diamond still drives tacks just the same as it did before.  I've also never used a capper, gonna hafta look into getting one of those bad boys also, I hate fumbling around and dropping the caps.

[elkboy]

Not a scientific observation, but I have noticed fewer misfires with musket caps.  A lot more of the fulminate compound, or whatever percussion-ignited chemical it is, in the larger cap, I suppose... happy hunting this fall, everyone!  Just a week to go!