WHY WOULD YOU HUNT FROM A MOTORCYCLE???!!!!!!

[hunter360]

I don't hunt off of a quad or motorcycle, I hike way back from the roads to get my deer. That being said, I use an atv and dirt bike for hunting. I pack my animal out from whatever the closest road I drag it to with the atv or dirt bike. I think it is bull sh*t that anyone would judge someone that uses either of these. It makes them sound like they don't know sh*t when they say they are spooking everything around them. People like the original poster for this topic are SCUM, and are the kind of people that get FREEDOMS taken away to suit their agenda's. Pretty soon we wont be able to take a sh*t in the woods because it might smell the animals away. PEOPLE LIKE THAT ARE PATHETIC AND NEED TO GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CAMPMEAT]

Have you guys noticed how much damage motorcycles have done in the Wenatchee National Forest compared to any ATV ? And they're legal. I have and it's horrible. Why can they be legal and do that and the antiATVers don't say squat about motorcycles ? Just food for thought my friends. Complain about the real problems and take action against those abusers, starting with the Forest Circus. They Ok it and don't do anything about it. Maybe if the antiATVers looked into this, they might turn their anger into something positive. 

And I suppose you would also say that the horses do NO damage.....yeah right. If motorcycles are kept on trails that are intended for that purpose, they do less damage than that 1,000 lb horse does....if you dont like them go where they arent....there are very limited areas where they are legally allowed to ride their motorcycles anymore and it is getting more and more limited because of the a$$hats that cant follow rules.  besides that...they are paying more to use those trails than any other user group out there because they have to LICENSE that motorcycle....horses, hikers, and mountainbikers dont! 

I don't know what world you're from, but you can ride licensed motorcycles anywhere on forest circus roads. Go up out of Leavenworth and look for youself. On road and off road, legally. I have ATVs and pay all those license fees, gas taxes, tire taxes, insurance etc. We CANNOT ride them everywhere like motorcycles can. It's *censored*s like you that don't know WTF you're even talking about. How many motorcycle/ATV clubs do you belong too ? Horses and cows do a helluva lot more damage than ATVs. 

Camp meat, Really! Mallard79 meant registered and tabbed dirt bikes, not licensed and I hope you would know that since you are so well versed in all things off road. You said you can license your atv, I don't know what state you live in but it can't be washington. Because atv's are never considered street legal, while some bike's are. It doesn't take a club to know what you are talking about because obviously you do not, stop being angry because you own an atv and can't ride them most places in washington, maybe you should have looked into that before buying your quad  

Stop making yourself look ignorant because I am sure you  are not, Mallard had an excellent point and was right, despite what your opinion is, get out and ride somewhere else then leavenworth and get a more well rounded base of knowledge.

First, I'm not angry for not being able to ride my ATV in "most places in Washington". I don't live in "most places in Washington". I live here, where we "only" have 600 miles of roads for OHV use. It pisses me off that these whiny hunters blame ATVs for everything under the sun. That's too bad, live with it like we have to put up with the whiny hunters. As for riding in Leavenworth, no, and no way in hell would I live in a town like that. Too many people for me.
My ATV is licensed in Washington with a year and month tag just like a vehicle in any state. You have to buy OHV tags to get a registration for them. You have to buy it every year if you take if off of your property to ride them. My ATV is also licensed in Idaho with a real license plate too...........wow !!! So, what makes you speak for other people ? You said, " he meant ". If he didn't say what he meant, then maybe he should speak for himself and not you.

[500 long]

I have an old trials bike that I built a rack on which I use for hunting sometimes. I haven't used it for years because where there is motorized access there's lots of people. I hunt in a non-motorized area surrounded by motorized access. I let the surrounding activity bird dog for me. I have no problem with people legal doing what they wish. If one endorses the taking of others rights to suit their desires eventually there will be nobody to stand with when they come for your rights. Let freedom ring a bell. Stick together people.  Divided WE fall.

[mallard79]

I believe it is pretty clear what I said....Motorcycles have the same month and year tab as your atv. I dont see why horses and mountain bikers shouldnt be licensed if riding on trails maintained by the $$$ that comes from my motorcycle licensing?? I do know what I am talking about and you should check your ideas against real facts before you atack people on this forum.....

[500 long]

Tags for horses and bicycles, I like it It should be written in that the monies are used appropriately though.  Too often the money never makes it were it was supposed to go. Should also have tabs on granola crunching hikers.

[CAMPMEAT]

I believe it is pretty clear what I said....Motorcycles have the same month and year tab as your atv. I dont see why horses and mountain bikers shouldnt be licensed if riding on trails maintained by the $$$ that comes from my motorcycle licensing?? I do know what I am talking about and you should check your ideas against real facts before you atack people on this forum.....

What ideas ?  They should tax EVERYBODY and all DOMESTIC animals then too. That way it's fair, instead of a certain group always being blamed for the fault of another, ie: the Forest Service ia good place to start. I just tell it like it is.

[mallard79]

Lol.....last time I checked, I already license my dogs/cats..... I guess I dont know how to make you understand that the people who ride their horses on trails that are maintained by the $$$ put aside from our orv tab licenses should be paying their fair share. You cant honestly tell me that a 1000 lb animal does less damage to a trail system than a 300 lb motorcycle on the same trail......I know that my motorcycles never left behind a single pile of excrement in the middle of a trail for others to ride/walk through......if it makes you feel better they can call it a cleanup fee charged to horse riders riding on maintained trails. Hikers that stay on the trail pay just the same as us hunters who choose to hike in to hunt.....its called the discover pass.......you want maintained trails to ride your orv/horse on you pay a little extra......pretty easy to see the logic....more damage/maintenance=more $$$

This has gotten off topic and is only making us look bad. I say shut it down.
 
I will agree to disagree at this point. 

[CAMPMEAT]

Lol.....last time I checked, I already license my dogs/cats..... I guess I dont know how to make you understand that the people who ride their horses on trails that are maintained by the $$$ put aside from our orv tab licenses should be paying their fair share. You cant honestly tell me that a 1000 lb animal does less damage to a trail system than a 300 lb motorcycle on the same trail......I know that my motorcycles never left behind a single pile of excrement in the middle of a trail for others to ride/walk through......if it makes you feel better they can call it a cleanup fee charged to horse riders riding on maintained trails. Hikers that stay on the trail pay just the same as us hunters who choose to hike in to hunt.....its called the discover pass.......you want maintained trails to ride your orv/horse on you pay a little extra......pretty easy to see the logic....more damage/maintenance=more $$$

This has gotten off topic and is only making us look bad. I say shut it down.
 
I will agree to disagree at this point. 

Ok, sounds fair to me.

[Co]

 

Why would you call them "selfish".  They have every right to be there just as you do.

   

[500 long]

I've been on horse worn trails and they are rough as a cob. I would much rather walk on a wheel trail. There are the "tare it up crowd" but that is an enforcement issue,   our eyes in the woods included. If a person destroys something they should pay the cost of repair.

[pianoman9701]

I've been on horse worn trails and they are rough as a cob. I would much rather walk on a wheel trail. There are the "tare it up crowd" but that is an enforcement issue,   our eyes in the woods included. If a person destroys something they should pay the cost of repair.

I think we should tax elk, too. I've hunted trails that herds of elk use on a regular basis and they're very worn and torn up. They also leave lots of poop behind and don't bother to go back and clean it up. Often, my boot treads are filled with it at the end of a day.

It's funny to me that this thread turned into a fight between dirt bikes and horses.

[sirmissalot]

I've been on horse worn trails and they are rough as a cob. I would much rather walk on a wheel trail. There are the "tare it up crowd" but that is an enforcement issue,   our eyes in the woods included. If a person destroys something they should pay the cost of repair.

I think we should tax elk, too. I've hunted trails that herds of elk use on a regular basis and they're very worn and torn up. They also leave lots of poop behind and don't bother to go back and clean it up. Often, my boot treads are filled with it at the end of a day.

It's funny to me that this thread turned into a fight between dirt bikes and horses.

I was thinking the same thing. I'll just keep my mouth shut and hope this arguement ends.