90 yard bow kill on a cow

[BOWHUNTER45]

Yeah iT all depends on the person ...my longest shot was @ 70 yrds and foggy .....never heard the arrow hit but the elk took off hard to the left ...so I waited about 25 min or so walked out there and blood everywhere ...went about 60 yrds and there he layed ... it was awesome to see him laying there !!!no doubt the bows now are definately capable of doing it 

Just think if you would have had a better broad head he only would have went 30 yards.

BOWHUNTER45 I am dissapointed in you.  You made up like 3 different posts talking about how awesome your broadhead is and then I talk sheet about it and I didnt' even get a response from you.  Man I must be losing my touch.    

Wasp's SUCK.  Slick Tricks RULE!!!    

ALL I FORGOT TO TELL YA... The other day I cut my finger and threw the sons of beaches away !! JUST KIDDING 

[colockumelk]

I don't believe you. No way you cut your finger with those dull excuse for a broad head

[nw_bowhunter]

Thats a long shot but the the modern bows are capable, howevere it really gets down to the shooters ability and situation. I personaly think its to far. 

[Rick]

That dude is a *censored*. He used to be on this site,but acted like a biatch and ran off when a couple guys questioned his need to target oversized sturgeon with his guide service.

Between shiat like this and the way he beats on oversized sturgeon his ethics are questionable at best.

[longknife]

Thats what makes our adrenilan rush! If he dosent get it, he never will, good luck,,,your gonna need it!

[rtspring]

90 Frickin yards? Why bow hunt.  Never bow hunted in my life but I am sure the thrill of the hunt is getting up close and personal with the animal you are about to stick.

Can it be done sure but I ask, Why take the chance of wounding an animal with so many factors involved...

Once again its personal choice.... I would not even think about taking  this type of shot....

[colockumelk]

Like others stated its unethical because once your release it takes almost a full second to arrive at your target.  Too much can happen.  That animal takes a step and you hit guts or another type of wound which you have a low probability of finding that animal.  If people can't comprehend why it is unethical than they are obviously in denial.  It is not a hard concept.  The only situation where I could see this being unethical is if the animal was bedded.  Then obviously its not gonna move.  But if the animal is moving or feeding 100% unethical. 

I took a 50yd shot on a doe.  Perfectly broad side.  My groups at 50yds are 4" max.  I launched my arrow and the doe went from relaxed calm to spinning and running off.  At 50yds I shot at a perfectly broad side doe and in the time it took my arrow to get there she managed to spin enough so my arrow entered near her anus.  It was only by pure 100% luck that the arrow entered at an angle that it barely caught one lunge before it exited.  I had to back out and retrieve her the next day.  Luck was with me that day.  That was at 50yds.  Imagine what would or could happen at a distance almost twice that. 

[Holg3107]

This is a tough one for me as a bow hunter. While I would never even consider shooting an animal at 90yds with my bow I also would never consider shooting an animal at 700yds with my rifle. I read about these rifle hunts with guys taking 600-1000 yard shots and people often times praising them but someone says 90yds with a bow and people freak out. I applaud the fact that someone can shoot their bow accurately at 90-100yds as well as shoot their rifle at 900-1000yds at the range, but when it comes to putting your crosshairs or pin on a living animal there are just too many factors involved for me to say that it can be done ethically. Yes I know there are guys out there that will say they have shot an elk at 900yds and dropped him in his tracks, that doesn't make it ethical because it worked out well one time. 

[colockumelk]

My last WA buck I shot at 390yds.  I shot a doe at 25 yds with my bow last weekend.  I got way more of a rush out of shooting that doe than I did with that buck.  To me my buck was about as thrilling or challenging as going to the range and shooting long distances.   

[deerslyr]

You cant put your ethics on some one else, its a personal decision and there is no set standard. Some people wont shoot past 30 yards because with their archery skills its just unethical. Does that mean im unethical for having my set max range at 50 yards (which it is), I think not. For me a 390 yard shot at a deer with a rifle isCOMPLETELY UNETHICAL. Does that mean im going to tear into colockumelk for cleanly taking a deer at nearly 400 yards, I think not. Im not saying what the guy did is right, but he did kill the elk cleanly, no arguing that. He must have felt very confident in his abilities and confident the cow wouldnmove. Hunters need to stick together instead of ripping into each other because there stile of hunting and set of ethics differs.And why does everyone keep saying that the only reason you starting archery hunting is to get close to quarry? That most certainly is not why I started bow hunting,just take one look in the regs at the season dates and ull see why I started bow hunting. Im not a purist im an opportunist. This however does not mean I take archery lightly, I am proficient in my set up out to 50 yards and wont go past that under any circumstance. I also practice year round. Getting close to my quarry is an added bonus and ive taken a deer at 5 yards with my bow but its not the reason I started archery hunting. I still get a rush from rifle hunting and the day I lose that I wilbecome a pure archery hunter, but that day has yet to come.

[colockumelk]

I think if you give a good reason you can say something is unethical.  I say 90yds is unethical because the time of flight for an arrow to get to 90 yds is so great.  I will still shoot out to 50yds with my bow because i feel the time of flight is small enough that the risk of the animal moving is very small.  Just curious why you feel a 390 yd shot is unethical?  For most people I would agree since most people don't shoot their rifles but once or twice a year and never out very far.  That year I consistantly shot out to 500meters for fun.  Also the time of flight for my rifle out to 390yds is less.  It took 0.42 seconds to reach that buck (which dropped in his tracks) and it takes my bow 0.55 seconds to reach the 50yd mark. 

So I would say based on that me shooting 50yds with my bow is more unethical than me shooting 400yds with my rifle.  Based solely on time of flight.  My groups for the two at those distances are the same.   

And yes as far as excitement goes I got almost no thrill from that 390 yard shot.  Granted he wasn't a Boone and Crocket buck (maybe then I  would have been pumped) so based on the lack of a thrill I pretty much just stick to archery now. 

[Biggerhammer]

My last WA buck I shot at 390yds.  I shot a doe at 25 yds with my bow last weekend.  I got way more of a rush out of shooting that doe than I did with that buck.  To me my buck was about as thrilling or challenging as going to the range and shooting long distances.   

390 yards is a chip shot, I don't buy the unethical BS. there are some that can do it and some that can't. I spend allot of time on the local ranges 300, 600 and 1000 yards Etc. Along with allot of rounds fired from the prone at extended ranges on private properties I shoot on. Thousands of round a year, it's my hobby. You could say my addiction. Ballistic golf in a sense, always striving for that perfect group, the perfect wind call. First round cold bore solid hits at extended ranges. I do my time because that's what I like to do.

I seldom see 3-4 People at the most on the ranges throughout the year but right before the season a flood of hunters arrive, fresh box of factory cartridges in hand and a dusty rifle and for the most part the groups at 100 and 200 are comical to say the least for the general group. There are those that can shoot. The majority shouldn't be shooting at anything over 200 yards, let alone 300 or 400+. the same goes for the archery guys.  It's all personal skill level, I know for a fact that if a Mulie takes a step as the trigger breaks at 400 yards you can be 10 or so inches off, it's happened to me. I had enough rifle though that even with the rear double lung hit, it knocked him down right where he stood. You take the same risk with your 390 yard rifle shot as he took with his 90 yards archery shot.

I have shot them a hell of allot further out and will cotinue to do so, if I can use the same rifle for my 600 yard Mulie shot as I did to take 176 Rockchucks that same year with. Than I am comfortable with my skill level and that rifle but as argued earlier, the animal can still move and the extended flight time risk. I'm still going to take that shot so I may be " Unethical " but it has worked for me so far and I will continue to do the same because it's worked for me.

[BOWHUNTER45]

Like others stated its unethical because once your release it takes almost a full second to arrive at your target.  Too much can happen.  That animal takes a step and you hit guts or another type of wound which you have a low probability of finding that animal.  If people can't comprehend why it is unethical than they are obviously in denial.  It is not a hard concept.  The only situation where I could see this being unethical is if the animal was bedded.  Then obviously its not gonna move.  But if the animal is moving or feeding 100% unethical. 

I took a 50yd shot on a doe.  Perfectly broad side.  My groups at 50yds are 4" max.  I launched my arrow and the doe went from relaxed calm to spinning and running off.  At 50yds I shot at a perfectly broad side doe and in the time it took my arrow to get there she managed to spin enough so my arrow entered near her anus.  It was only by pure 100% luck that the arrow entered at an angle that it barely caught one lunge before it exited.  I had to back out and retrieve her the next day.  Luck was with me that day.  That was at 50yds.  Imagine what would or could happen at a distance almost twice that.

I bet this doe was a whitetail  they are known to do such a thing 

[BOWHUNTER45]

and my Mathews bow is so fast with a WASP they usually die before the arrow arrives hahahahahahahahahahahaaha

[Glockster]

My last WA buck I shot at 390yds.  I shot a doe at 25 yds with my bow last weekend.  I got way more of a rush out of shooting that doe than I did with that buck.  To me my buck was about as thrilling or challenging as going to the range and shooting long distances.   

390 yards is a chip shot, I don't buy the unethical BS. there are some that can do it and some that can't. I spend allot of time on the local ranges 300, 600 and 1000 yards Etc. Along with allot of rounds fired from the prone at extended ranges on private properties I shoot on. Thousands of round a year, it's my hobby. You could say my addiction. Ballistic golf in a sense, always striving for that perfect group, the perfect wind call. First round cold bore solid hits at extended ranges. I do my time because that's what I like to do.

I seldom see 3-4 People at the most on the ranges throughout the year but right before the season a flood of hunters arrive, fresh box of factory cartridges in hand and a dusty rifle and for the most part the groups at 100 and 200 are comical to say the least for the general group. There are those that can shoot. The majority shouldn't be shooting at anything over 200 yards, let alone 300 or 400+. the same goes for the archery guys.  It's all personal skill level, I know for a fact that if a Mulie takes a step as the trigger breaks at 400 yards you can be 10 or so inches off, it's happened to me. I had enough rifle though that even with the rear double lung hit, it knocked him down right where he stood. You take the same risk with your 390 yard rifle shot as he took with his 90 yards archery shot.

I have shot them a hell of allot further out and will cotinue to do so, if I can use the same rifle for my 600 yard Mulie shot as I did to take 176 Rockchucks that same year with. Than I am comfortable with my skill level and that rifle but as argued earlier, the animal can still move and the extended flight time risk. I'm still going to take that shot so I may be " Unethical " but it has worked for me so far and I will continue to do the same because it's worked for me.

Ah, the i'm better than the average hunter post.   I'm more dedicated.  Those 390's are chip shots.  I shoot thousands of rounds a year on private property.  600yd mule deer.  176 rockchucks.  I dedicate my life to it.. blah bahahba.  You should get together with Paul Ambrose, the 90yd archer.   You guys would really hit it off.  He's killed hundreds of deer at over 50yds and never lost a single one (eventhough he's not even in his 30's)  He used to post reams of pages on long range archery.  He shoots thousands upon thousands of arrows a year; most archers he sees show up at the bow range only a couple of weeks before the season, he's a Hoyt sponsored black hoodie wearning prostaffer with a tatoo and lots of stickers on his truck to prove his superiority over the 'average' hunters who shoot their lowly Mathews bows.