Bigger AR type rifle

[grundy53]

any of you guys on ar15.com?

I am.

Im wondering if you can do me a favor and register me? You have to have a non generic email (no hotmail, yahoo, etc....) and I dont have one!  They said you can change it after..

Sure just pm me the info you would like to use like your username and what not.

[CAMPMEAT]

New bear gun ?

yes

Bring it over next year and we'll go bear hunting. JKEEN and I saw 3 the very first day I took him out for deer muzzy. I saw 11 bears last year. I want to see the damage it does. I've been wanting a 450 or 458 SOCOM for bear.

[grundy53]

New bear gun ?

yes

Bring it over next year and we'll go bear hunting. JKEEN and I saw 3 the very first day I took him out for deer muzzy. I saw 11 bears last year. I want to see the damage it does. I've been wanting a 450 or 458 SOCOM for bear.

Sounds good. Thanks for the invite.

[CAMPMEAT]

New bear gun ?

yes

Bring it over next year and we'll go bear hunting. JKEEN and I saw 3 the very first day I took him out for deer muzzy. I saw 11 bears last year. I want to see the damage it does. I've been wanting a 450 or 458 SOCOM for bear.

Sounds good. Thanks for the invite.

No problem. Just let me know.

[JohnVH]

That sounds cool, get some pics guys! Maybe Ill have to build a BIG upper next time around, if anyone is in the PNW Id love to see one or meet at a range/pit.

[JohnVH]

parts and ammo just arrived! Will assemble it tonight, range report this weekend!!
Upper

Bling, cute little things!

[JohnVH]

DONE! Going to get some taller scope rings in the morning though, WAY too low!

Assembly was too easy, dangit, but Im addicted, I just want to build them and get another.

Bunch of parts! First time! Only took an hour to figure it out. Trigger is rediculously STIFFFFFFFF, must fix that.






.223, 3 grendels, 7mm mag




Chambered two rounds through it, really scratches the cases and bullet, is that normal?




New one on top, no marks...

[carpsniperg2]

A few of mine have tend to put scatches on my brass like that.

Just got the last of my stuff for my mega build ordered last night. I am working on ordering the stuff for my 2nd one. Going to build the lower and then wait to decide if I want a 458 socom/6.8 or 6.5. I might just build one to sell it, I don't need anymore

[coop2424]

Johnvh

Try this for your trigger.  It is free and on mine it made a world of difference tell I get a new trigger.

http://www.sargenthome.com/15_Minute_AR_Trigger_Job.htm

[NaturalSelection]

Bump.

I had a 5.56 built out of Rainier Arms. Great guys and the best customer service ever. I had the gun built for coyotes and but a little higher end  parts in it. So far its super accurate but I haven't put good optics on it yet.

I want to build a big on myself. Keep this thread thumpin'

[JohnVH]

Thanks coop, I actually had that printed off here, but being my first build just wanted to see that it would work first before I went to modifying it, haha.  I just dont know what to get for compound, any idea's?

[coop2424]

Thanks coop, I actually had that printed off here, but being my first build just wanted to see that it would work first before I went to modifying it, haha.  I just dont know what to get for compound, any idea's?

I used a polish pad on my dremel and a fine paint polish for cars like a rubbing compound i think.  It was a couple hears ago so dont remeber exactly what it was.  I know you do not want one that is real abrasive and i think it only took a couple minutes to do. A jewelers compound would work also. Doing the spring mod made to most difference with the creep and pull weight. Just make sure not to loose the spring in the sear when taking it apart.

[FC]

Cutting up your springs to lighten trigger pull and help you achieve greater accuracy isn't a very good way to go. When you weaken (cut) your hammer spring you slow it's speed (increase lock time), for accuracy you want the hammer traveling as fast as possible. You can of course also end up getting light strikes from a mod like the one suggested here.

Save your money and buy a Rock River ARMS NM, Timney or Geissele trigger. Just shoot it as is for a couple of weeks or whatever it takes you to buy a good trigger, you will crap your pants at how much easier to shoot it will be after you swap it!

[coop2424]

Cutting up your springs to lighten trigger pull and help you achieve greater accuracy isn't a very good way to go. When you weaken (cut) your hammer spring you slow it's speed (increase lock time), for accuracy you want the hammer traveling as fast as possible. You can of course also end up getting light strikes from a mod like the one suggested here.

Save your money and buy a Rock River ARMS NM, Timney or Geissele trigger. Just shoot it as is for a couple of weeks or whatever it takes you to buy a good trigger, you will crap your pants at how much easier to shoot it will be after you swap it!

Completely agree to a point.  I have way better accuracy with mine since cutting the springs. I have shot a lot of rounds through it and have not had an issue to this point.  I know sometime I may have issues but then I will just put the other springs in that I have as a backup.  To each their own I just don't want to spend the cash when this does what I need at this point.  If I use the gun more often or have issues I will theb possibly update the trigger. 

[CastleRocker]

I've done a LOT of the 15 minute trigger jobs.  The only problem I've had is they tend to not have enough snap to set off some of the harder military or sometimes even Remington primers. 

If you cut off the back of the hammer and/or get the yellow JP spring from someplace like Brownells, that will leave you with a crisp 3 1/2 lb trigger, with pretty fast lock time.  Check out Bill Springfield for a trigger as well.  I have had a couple of his, I think they were about $50 but it's been a few years ago.  His feel MUCH better than the NM trigger that Rock River sells.  That being said, the Rock River National Match is a real good trigger.  It's just not a great one.   Bill does each one by hand one at a time.  I'm pretty sure Rock River doesn't.   I've done several myself that turned out great.  (I've also done a couple that I had to replace).  Practice makes perfect.   Try it yourself!  Just be careful when you hit the 3-4lb mark, it doesn't take much more and you are down into ounces.  In fact, I seem to recall now that was why I bought my first one from Bill Springfield!

I've got no experience with Geiselle, Jewell, Timney, or the American Gold (my dream trigger group), or any other trigger that costs me more than two days wages in an AR.  I tend to get a trigger to where I can shoot it well, and then spend money on reloading components so I can go shooting.   

I've got two Jewells and a Timney in bolt guns that are very nice and crisp.  I'm probably missing the boat by not having one in an AR.