Hoyt, Bow tec, Mathews, Looking for a new bow 2012???????

[Archeryoutfitters]

 I talked to two of the big bow pro,shops and was told that the best new bow to get is probably  Bowtec.destroyer, i have never owned a bow tec. started with a Mathews for 13years then the last 3 years has been a Hoyt alfa max, i have always left it up to the pro shops to decide for me being that they have a lot more in site into all new stuff
and i let my loyalty cloud my judgment. would like a little help from some that don't do the same thing as me let your loyalty get in the way of best way to go. Thank Brian

[scottcrb]

i would love to know what you find out im interested in getting in to bow hunting and those are the three manufacturers that i have been interested in. i have heard the hoyt carbons break quite easily and that there is not much of a warranty on them but i dont know how reliable that info is.

[D-Rock425]

Bowtech destroyer are they still making that POS.

[blackhorn]

I have the Destroyer 350 and really enjoy the bow.  I bought it last year and went through the whole gambit of bows.  The two that stood out for me were the Destroyer and the Mathews Z7.  The Z7 seemed a little bit smoother than the destroyer, but the destroyer was cheaper and that is why I went the route I did.  This is just my opinion based an what felt good to me and was in no way based on brand.  Both the PSE and hoyt bows just did not feel right to me and my shooting style (absolutly nothing against those bows).  The best advice I can give is don't let others tell you what to shoot, shoot the bows and the question will anwser itself.   

[D-Rock425]

Carbons break    i watch that thing get ran over by a truck without a problem.

[BULLBLASTER]

The best thing to do when bow shopping is shoot every bow that you can (all brands and models) that is properly set to your draw length and a comfortable poundage. One will definietly stand out to you. Let the bow pick you.

[bloodhound]

i would love to know what you find out im interested in getting in to bow hunting and those are the three manufacturers that i have been interested in. i have heard the hoyt carbons break quite easily and that there is not much of a warranty on them but i dont know how reliable that info is.

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[bloodhound]

i bought this years hoyt crx 32 before i went broke lol, and i shot the mathews z7 and the hoyt and liked the hoyt a lot more. its faster, just as silent, better balanced and more. but ive never shot a bow tec. but i would buy the hoyt over the mathews all day long. but thats just my 2cents

[D-Rock425]

That's what I'm talking about do that to a bowreck

[scottcrb]

like i said i dont know how reliable the info is but the guy i heard it from shoots a lot and competes more than he hunts and i think it was just stuff he had heard from other guys

[NWWABOWHNTR]

Shoot all of them and then pick the one that feels best to you.  Otherwise the fanboys will have you convinced that their bow is the only one.  Don't limit yourself to those 3 choices either.

[D-Rock425]

nwwabowhunter is right you should shoot them all.

[jaymark6655]

Carbons break    i watch that thing get ran over by a truck without a problem.

I think he meant to say buying one of these will make you go broke.

[D-Rock425]

That could be.

[JLS]

The best thing to do when bow shopping is shoot every bow that you can (all brands and models) that is properly set to your draw length and a comfortable poundage. One will definietly stand out to you. Let the bow pick you.

Ditto this X 1,000.

Me telling you that you should buy one particular bow is about as silly as me telling you to buy one particular brand/model of boot.  All of us have different physical builds, limitations, and preferences that will make one bow stand out over others.

The last time I upgraded, I shot about 15 different bows.  I shot all of the big name brands, and the Mathews Q2 stood out head and shoulders above the others, to ME.  I don't care what someone else prefers, nor should you.  I shot some bows over Thanksgiving thinking I might upgrade.  I admit, I am a Mathews homer and am pretty loyal to their bows.  I kept hearing raves about the Z7, so I shot it.  I liked the Monster MR 7.0 better.    Moral of the story, shoot them and go by what you think, not by what the pro shop dude tells you to buy.

[Archeryoutfitters]

 Thanks for the reply on this, that is what I did with my last bow I was went to A pro shop SVA that had the top 3 bows set up and shot them all. Along with 2 friends that are both very avid hunters and shooter and we didn't say a word to each other in tell the day was done
And 2 of us, that had each only owned 5 or 6 Mathews over the last 15 years  the years walked out of there with the Alfa max, and at that time i didn't care for the bow tec, and the Mathews was a very close 2nd and i will do the same this time but the more info i can get and (HONEST) options is good to know, if there is a problem or a consistent dislike or problem some are having and there is 2 brands that are close for me, I will defiantly let that be the determining factor. Thanks agian Brian

[blacktailcrzy]

HOYT HOYT HOYT

[boonerboy]

buy the one YOU like! so many guys fall for the best advertized bow or the buddy/bow shop guy that says you HAVE to buy a (fill in the blank) bow or nothing at all. Shoot a bunch of bows until you find the one you like. That being said, I really like the Z7.

[jrebel]

I am buying a new bow this year as well.  I have shot Mathews for many years and love their bows.  Has anyone shot the new Helium???    I will be selling my Mathews DXT 30" draw 60 lbs with everything.  It shoots 270 ft/sec with my hunting arrow and I am shooting 125 gr 29.5" arrows.

I will be looking at the Helium...hope it shoots well.  Anyone with info let me know.

[huntindoc]

I agree entirely with the shoot them all discussion.  Try hard not to be too biases on way or another, and if you have the chance to shoot in more than one shop, all the better.  Or get to a big show and shoot everything there.  I bought a bow for my brother a few years back, expected to buy the Matthews, but ended up getting a Rytera (Martin).  Loved it.  I've got one now because I liked his as well.  And keep in mind, if you get one and it does break, they all have good warranties, and everybody makes the rare lemon.

[NWWABOWHNTR]

While you are out there shooting, make sure to try out the Elite bows also... I have shot Bowtech, Hoyt (even own 1), Diamonds, Mathews, Elite and Maitland.  In my humble opinion, the Maitland is hands down the smoothest and nicest compound I have shot.  That being said, the Elite line has some extremely nice shooters also, the Tour, Pure and Hunter are all great bows. 

[coachcw]

I love the way my g5 primal feels and shoots , that being said i love the hoyt carbons

[colockumelk]

In 2009 I shot everything under the sun. It took me 4 months to decide. I ended up with tje Hoyt Alpha Max 32. Like others said it spoke to me. It stood out. I can't explain it. 

This year if I was buying a new bow I would probate ly buy the Bowtech Invasion. That is a sweat bow. But just because I liked it doesn't mean you would.

[elksnout]

A question to tag onto this thread. To have the most forgiving bow, wouldn't a guy look for a bow with a long brace height of 7.oo'' or better and a longer axle to axle length? Just asking. 

[JPhelps]

Long ATA (axle to axle) and Long Brace Height usually make a bow more forgiving.

[elksnout]

So these are things to consider when looking for that next new bow then?  Might come into play when you are standing in a thicket on the side of a steep slope trying to pick a spot on that bull coming in fast?

[JPhelps]

Not necessarily.  Forgiveness is the ability for your arrow to hit the spot you are holding even if the follow through, grip torque, release, etc isn't perfect.   The longer higher brace height bows tend to be heavier and more cumbersome to pack around as well.

When you say coming in fast are you meaning in case you mis-judge the distance?  If that is the case forgiveness wont help there, that is strictly based on the speed of the bow. 

[elksnout]

Not necessarily.  Forgiveness is the ability for your arrow to hit the spot you are holding even if the follow through, grip torque, release, etc isn't perfect.   The longer higher brace height bows tend to be heavier and more cumbersome to pack around as well.

When you say coming in fast are you meaning in case you mis-judge the distance?  If that is the case forgiveness wont help there, that is strictly based on the speed of the bow. 

     

Nope. You answered my questions in your first paragraph my friend. Thanks. 

[Archeryoutfitters]

everyone should shoot a forgiving bow for hunting because it is a rarity to be able to stand up rite perfect on even ground, and shoot on the level not adding in the moving animals your excitement you wanting to make the shot, and if everything does turn out PERFECT you are still in great shape. and speed doesn't kill your shot placement is what kills.

[carpsniperg2]

There is a lot of great info in here so I don't need to add much. Best thing is to not look at a name but what fits you right. I have owned almost every bow brand out there. I still own 9 different brands of bows right now. My pse bows are always my hunting bows because they fit me the best. If another bow preformed for me as well as they have, I would shoot it. Get what feels best to you and what you shoot the best and you will be more happy then having a name of a bow

[BOWHUNTER45]

I just say this  I have had a Mathews for about 10yrs now and never had one thing brake or go wrong ...All I do is change strings every couple years ...But I keep it simple and do not put so much sheet on it to where something will brake ...every bow has its own feel and its up to you to check out a few before spending the money 

[BOWHUNTER45]

all one more thing ...a few people I know who shoots Bow wreck  :chuckle:spend more time fixing than shooting 

that should get the ball rolling HUH !!!

[TheHunt]

I think the three are pretty good bow manufactures.  I personally like the longer axle to axle bows for my piss poor shooting issues.

[whack em]

Like you've been seeing.  Get out and shoot them all!  Don't limit it to the top three based on advertisement.  Take a gander at the limbsavers and elites, they are pretty sweet.  I personally am a Hoyt guy, but I like my father in laws Z7 extreme, except it's heavy.  Do your homework and shop around.  It's a good time to buy since the season is over, and folks are selling off toys to pay up coming taxes, or just upgrade.

[BOWHUNTER45]

TAXES  PLEASE 

[bloodhound]

theres alot of decent talk about those g5 bows, ide like to shoot one for sheets and giggles to see how they are. might consider checkin one of those out.

[jnevs23]

If your coming into Spokane id check out the Quest G5 primal.  I was a little skeptical of such a new manufacturer so I did some research.  The Primal rates right up there with the Carbon element and z7 on many reviews.  Not saying it is as good or better, thats just what I read.  After talking to a couple guys and looking online G5 took over Ross archery after Ross failed to hold up to their end of some business deals.  So the design on the quest g5 isn't a brand new design, it comes with ross archery pedigree.  Long story short it is a very smooth draw, ibo's around 320 if i remember right, its a very nice looking bow, and very quiet in my opinion. Of all the bows I shot it felt the best to me (didnt shoot the element or z7 because I didnt want any added temptations)  Might be something worth looking at if your in town.  I know Wholesale and Cabelas carry them, I paid 729 for bare bow back in April, you can probably find it a bit cheaper now.  I also saw Quest G5 is coming out with an even higher end bow than the primal, but not sure if there are any around town.

[buck man]

Brian call me and we will talk. I have shot them all and you should too. That being said if you want a really forgiving carbon bow get the matrix. Longer a to a than the element.  Too costly? Then get the new vector 35 . Rock solid bow and very forgiving also. In my opinion hoyt is always on the cutting edge and EVERYother bow company is just playing catch up. Go to salt lake and tour the plant. Then go tour the rest and you will see what I mean.

[carpsniperg2]

I love eveyones different ideas and thoughts. Very cool to see this one pretty cival. I like about 5 differnt bow compaines. My pse bows are the ones I trust my life and hunts to I love my hoyt dorado but have never liked much of there compound bows. I also like elite a lot! They still can't touch my x force and soon my evo

[Archeryoutfitters]

Brian call me and we will talk. I have shot them all and you should too. That being said if you want a really forgiving carbon bow get the matrix. Longer a to a than the element.  Too costly? Then get the new vector 35 . Rock solid bow and very forgiving also. In my opinion hoyt is always on the cutting edge and EVERYother bow company is just playing catch up. Go to salt lake and tour the plant. Then go tour the rest and you will see what I mean.

Thanks Gib, i respect your opinion on the matter, and i will give you a call, what you have said is exactly, where my thoughts have been from talking with all the hunters.

[Archeryoutfitters]

I have owned a lot of different bows and was a die hard Mathews person in tell 2008 when i got a alfa max. it is the best bow i have ever shot , smooth, quite, fast, forgiving,accurate, 4 years i haven't had to tune it once. so why am i wanting to change things up? the bows are evolving so much and so fast i fig, every 3 years a person should take a good look at whats out there, thanks for all of your incite on this i will shoot hem all just the same as last time when i got the alfa max. i would be surprised if i leave with something other than a Hoyt,
But i will go in the with a open mind.

[Johnb317]

You need to shoot and find what's comfortable for you...   I started with a hand me down Parker magnum and the Elk died just as quickly as the one shot with my new Carbon Element. 
I shot a bunch before settling on the Hoyt.... first off  Hoyt does warrant all their bows... and wherease Carbon fiber can be brittle what are you doing with your bow??!
One thing to keep in mind and check out is that the Hoyt Cams have a shallower valley, or quicker ramp up.  May not seem like a big deal, but if you're at full draw and waiting for the Deer or Elk it can sneak up on you.   
Personally I liked the valley on the Mathews better, but the overall feel of the Hoyt sold me.

No wrong decision.... just what's right for you.  (and if you're like me and plan to hold on to the same bow for a long time  only look at $$ when you come to a tie breaker)

[Archeryoutfitters]

You need to shoot and find what's comfortable for you...   I started with a hand me down Parker magnum and the Elk died just as quickly as the one shot with my new Carbon Element. 
I shot a bunch before settling on the Hoyt.... first off  Hoyt does warrant all their bows... and wherease Carbon fiber can be brittle what are you doing with your bow??!
One thing to keep in mind and check out is that the Hoyt Cams have a shallower valley, or quicker ramp up.  May not seem like a big deal, but if you're at full draw and waiting for the Deer or Elk it can sneak up on you.   
Personally I liked the valley on the Mathews better, but the overall feel of the Hoyt sold me.

No wrong decision.... just what's right for you.  (and if you're like me and plan to hold on to the same bow for a long time  only look at $$ when you come to a tie breaker)

Thanks good advice, and i like to hear this kind of input because if it comes down to a tie, the tie breaker will be greatly influenced by others real experiences.

[JLS]

The short valley is what has kept me from ever getting very interested in Hoyts.  Also, my Mathews has a nice draw cycle (and let down) that is easier on my shoulder (old rotator cuff injury from HS).