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Re: First Boat dilemma
« Reply #45 on: January 23, 2012, 11:11:44 PM »
You do realize that the dissimilar metals contacting each other will case the softer of the two to corrode more quickly right? The stainless rivet in the aluminum will cause the aluminium to chalk up and drift away like a fart in the wind,Another tip for you aluminium boat owners is DO NOT USE your hull for anytype of electrical equipment ground spend the time and money to ground to the battery and ground the battery to the water, not  relying  on ground through the zinc in your motor.

Hey Loki, pick up some small plastic washers, about the diameter of your snaps. Put one behind each new snap when you rivet them back on. Then fill the inside of the male snap with clear silicon, they will last a lot longer. ;)

I actually put marine grease behind each that I replace as well as replacing the aluminum rivet with stainless ones.  I also put a little between the snaps so they will pop loose easier if I need them to.  thanks for the hint though.

Agreed Wildweeds, I didn't want to start an arguement. ;)
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Re: First Boat dilemma
« Reply #46 on: January 23, 2012, 11:31:02 PM »
Thanks for all the replies guys. I am thoroughly confused (and enjoying it). Right now there are so many boats out there with all the upgrades that I want. Like someone said earlier I am going to take my time especially since there is so much out there. I am still divided on the outboard versus inboard, so I might have to take some of you up on the suggestion of driving a couple different boats. Do dealers let you test drive boats??? The only thing that I am worried about buying new is that if I try and get everything I want then I am going to price myself out of what I want or I won't be able to get the upgrades that I want until later. Thanks again everyone.

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Re: First Boat dilemma
« Reply #47 on: January 23, 2012, 11:33:01 PM »
Phool....I think the dimensions are just the reverse of what you said.  The Commander is 22'.  :chuckle:

By the way...nice shellfish tray.  Looks like it has pretty good inside depth.  What's it made out of?

 The Commander X came in 21'6", 22'6", 23'6" etc, and as I said before it also has a wider beam. ;)

 The tray is made of Sanatec HDPE http://www.tapplastics.com/shop/category.php?bid=39

Huntphool does the wider beam do anything for you?? i.e. smoother ride, sit differently in the water, etc.

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Re: First Boat dilemma
« Reply #48 on: January 23, 2012, 11:59:42 PM »
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Huntphool does the wider beam do anything for you?? i.e. smoother ride, sit differently in the water, etc.

 NorthRiver said the hole shot was a little quicker. The new Commanders are now coming with the wider beam and they have eliminated the "X" desigantion. They still make the 21'6" boat but then go back to even lengths, also adding in 4" to the beam.
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Re: First Boat dilemma
« Reply #49 on: January 27, 2012, 08:21:05 PM »
Hey for you North River people what is the difference between the Trapper and the Commander. The only thing that I can see is the length is a bit smaller 20' vs. 21'6" and the beam is 3" shorter. Does that 3" make much difference? I see a 05 Trapper on CL that says it is 21', but the current material only lists a 20' for the Trapper.

Also anyone have any experience with Mercury Jet pumps/drives??

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Re: First Boat dilemma
« Reply #50 on: January 27, 2012, 08:28:47 PM »
The wider beam is nice as the boat with the wider beam should not tip sideways quite as much when both big dudes are on the same side to land a fish.  Also they won't rock quite as much in a sideways chop.

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Re: First Boat dilemma
« Reply #51 on: January 28, 2012, 09:13:45 PM »
somebody mentioned the wooldridge boats . i have a 25ft super sport drifter with a 6.0 380hp v8 . i have been getting about 8 gal. an hour at 50mph . i have full walk around motor well ,and yes , it's a jet . air ride seats really make a difference . had a wooldridge alaska 2 before my wife said to get a new boat before i retire .  ( yes dear ) . these boats are spendy , but i love every minute i'm in it . made alot of changes in the building process . could'nt be happier .

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Re: First Boat dilemma
« Reply #52 on: January 28, 2012, 10:32:03 PM »
Okay guys I am going to purchase my first boat this year, but I am having a dilemma. Well it's a family dilemma. My perfect boat would be a nice 16' to 18' jon boat that I could fish and hunt out of, but my wife has other ideas. She wants something that we can load the family up in and head out to the dunes and do a little tubing, skiing, or just hanging out. I have looked at some fish and ski setups and most of them look okay for doing something, but they just don't reach out to me. Out of all those boats that I have looked at the only one that I really like is the Lund Tyee 1950. It has storage, livewells, and extra seats with a ski pylon. It might not be as cushy as my wife wants, but it is a nice 20' boat that looks like it would do it all.

One thing that has peaked my interest is a topic "Show Your Boats" that I looked at today with all the alumawelds, North Rivers, Northwest Jets, etc. They look like great boats. The other day I found a 07 22foot FishRite Explorer with all the bells and whistles, but after reading the thread mentioned above it seemed a lot of you prefer outboards vs. inboards and that boat has a big 8.1L inbd. Anyways I am hoping that you can help a fellow hunt-wa member out and give me some advice. Here is some more info that I am sure will be asked.

I prefer aluminum - not sure why
The boat will mainly be used on lakes of variable sizes and maybe some bigger rivers
I highly doubt that I would ever take it in Puget Sound or any big waters.
I like to fish for bass, trout, panfish, walleye, etc.
Absolute smallest I would want 18' and willing to go up to 22'. I think a 17' would be to cramped.
Has to fit a family of four and probably up to two to four guests depending on family or the kids' friends who might tag along.
Have enough engine to tow a tube, skier, or a wakeboard.
I am not to concerned about the hunting aspect - I think I can talk the wife into a specialty boat later  ;)
My budget is 10K to about 45k.

I didn't really take the time to read through all the replies but was the boat show mentioned?  Might be a good place to figure out what would work for the family and keep your eyes peeled for a similar setup afterward

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Re: First Boat dilemma
« Reply #53 on: January 29, 2012, 05:32:35 PM »
somebody mentioned the wooldridge boats . i have a 25ft super sport drifter with a 6.0 380hp v8 . i have been getting about 8 gal. an hour at 50mph . i have full walk around motor well ,and yes , it's a jet . air ride seats really make a difference . had a wooldridge alaska 2 before my wife said to get a new boat before i retire .  ( yes dear ) . these boats are spendy , but i love every minute i'm in it . made alot of changes in the building process . could'nt be happier .

Any pictures???

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Re: First Boat dilemma
« Reply #54 on: February 02, 2012, 09:39:29 PM »
Sportfury.  Recommend you take a ride in the boat you want.  Test each and every one you are looking with the wife.....  You might want a certain boat for the way it looks, but until you blast it through the water you want to run then it is just a nice shiny new boat that looks pretty.    Jets are great yes, for an all purpose boat.  If your even thinking of running nothing but skinny water then decisions already made - get a jet.   But if you think the majority of the time is bigger water and you can get by without running to shallow rivers, maybe find a friend with a jet..  And buy deep vee with a prop...  I ran Jets for years is AK and it was a must for the braided rivers, but here what I like to fish a Jet is not my favorite any more.  You will sacrifice ride, you will lose comfy space in back due to dog box if it is an inboard.  My TJ was 102" and 22 foot.  My Wooldridge is 23 and is 102 wide, but it is like the Queen Mary versus the TJ because of the box being gone.  It has 200hp Honda, and runs almost as fast as the TJ did.....  Enough room for five lawn chairs to watch Sturgeon rods...  Ride, well have you ever driven a low rider with shocks removed and then jumped into a nice new Caddy, that pretty much explains that part.  Jet will beat you, why do you think they come standard with suspension seats, at least for the higher end models....  The jets I ran in AK, one I could run with Airboats at 2" of water, the other well it was cool and had HP but have you ever tried to pull a 3K boat off a sand bar without another boat to assist, it makes for a long day.  Bought my TJ new, prior to moving here, as I bought it with an AK mindset...  Anyone that ever fished with me has Kidney problems to this date..lol  Of course it sounded cool and ran like a raped ape, but I have begun to like comfort and the deep vee Wooldridge has enabled me to run anywhere I normally would have ventured with Jet with a serious confidence level and allows me to run places I wouldn't have dream upon in a jet.  But on the flip side Jets are extremely safe for rough water and big waves, if you learn to drive it right and keep the front end running high..... but they will put a hurt on your body if there are 3" wind waves coming at you.... and you drive it like you stole it..........  I would steer away from TJ, worse of the jets in regards to ride, this compared to Wooldrdige and NR...   But do not take my word, come down sometime when I am out and you can drive mine to see how it rides, then go drive a Jet...  Oh I mean low rider without shocks... :chuckle:

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Re: First Boat dilemma
« Reply #55 on: February 03, 2012, 06:49:13 PM »
Thanks cohoho. I appreciate the feedback.

My wife came up with a great idea last night  :bash: With my bonus that I will be getting and our tax returns she decided that she doesn't want to get a boat, but pay off all our bills, so we would be somewhat debt free except for vehicle payments. Oh the logic of it. Dang it that is my world. We will have to see where we go from here.

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Re: First Boat dilemma
« Reply #56 on: February 04, 2012, 12:15:33 AM »
 With our current administration in place your wife is a genius.
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Re: First Boat dilemma
« Reply #57 on: February 04, 2012, 12:53:13 AM »
My Pops has been talking about selling his 25' Woolridge jet.
I think he mentioned $12k as a price, can't remember for sure.

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Re: First Boat dilemma
« Reply #58 on: February 04, 2012, 06:22:19 AM »
Sportfury.  Recommend you take a ride in the boat you want.  Test each and every one you are looking with the wife.....  You might want a certain boat for the way it looks, but until you blast it through the water you want to run then it is just a nice shiny new boat that looks pretty.    Jets are great yes, for an all purpose boat.  If your even thinking of running nothing but skinny water then decisions already made - get a jet.   But if you think the majority of the time is bigger water and you can get by without running to shallow rivers, maybe find a friend with a jet..  And buy deep vee with a prop...  I ran Jets for years is AK and it was a must for the braided rivers, but here what I like to fish a Jet is not my favorite any more.  You will sacrifice ride, you will lose comfy space in back due to dog box if it is an inboard.  My TJ was 102" and 22 foot.  My Wooldridge is 23 and is 102 wide, but it is like the Queen Mary versus the TJ because of the box being gone.  It has 200hp Honda, and runs almost as fast as the TJ did.....  Enough room for five lawn chairs to watch Sturgeon rods...  Ride, well have you ever driven a low rider with shocks removed and then jumped into a nice new Caddy, that pretty much explains that part.  Jet will beat you, why do you think they come standard with suspension seats, at least for the higher end models....  The jets I ran in AK, one I could run with Airboats at 2" of water, the other well it was cool and had HP but have you ever tried to pull a 3K boat off a sand bar without another boat to assist, it makes for a long day.  Bought my TJ new, prior to moving here, as I bought it with an AK mindset...  Anyone that ever fished with me has Kidney problems to this date..lol  Of course it sounded cool and ran like a raped ape, but I have begun to like comfort and the deep vee Wooldridge has enabled me to run anywhere I normally would have ventured with Jet with a serious confidence level and allows me to run places I wouldn't have dream upon in a jet.  But on the flip side Jets are extremely safe for rough water and big waves, if you learn to drive it right and keep the front end running high..... but they will put a hurt on your body if there are 3" wind waves coming at you.... and you drive it like you stole it..........  I would steer away from TJ, worse of the jets in regards to ride, this compared to Wooldrdige and NR...   But do not take my word, come down sometime when I am out and you can drive mine to see how it rides, then go drive a Jet...  Oh I mean low rider without shocks... :chuckle:

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Re: First Boat dilemma
« Reply #59 on: February 04, 2012, 03:11:24 PM »
It was secret like those loaded Cherries you brought along, heck I should have used one or two for fuel that day...

 


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